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pop production

Post by vvv » Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:12 pm

I postulate:

the latest Foos and the latest Stones are intentionally pop productions

(both, btw, great in cans)
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Re: pop production

Post by Nick Sevilla » Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:47 pm

Well, they are pop rock now... and have been for a long time.
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Re: pop production

Post by drumsound » Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:30 am

The Stones (esp Mick as I've heard tell) have always kind of chased the pop sound to remain 'relevant.' Miss You, Undercover of the Nigh etc show this. The first single on the new record sounds like a continuation of that. Someone on the purple site called it the AI Stones and I think that's perfect.

I honestly haven't heard the new Foo Fighters.

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Re: pop production

Post by vvv » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:26 pm

Agreed.

The Foos record, in particular, shows signs IMO of looping, cut and paste editing, and intentionally sectional use of sounds and instruments and arrangement in general.

As an example, it could be a Taylor Swift or Miley Cyrus record, except with Grohl's voice and heavy guitars. And Josh Freese is a great drummer, but little swing and no funk, kinda like Matt Sorum.

And while you can't hear the edits, the segues are often pretty drastic.

Totally worthy to hear it in headphones, and the pop stuff is even more obvious - Grohl's occasional, painful screamo vocals (which I dislike) kinda underline my point.

And yeah, the Stones defined pop, continue to do so, but listening to the excellent new record, I feel the performances are what make it good, not the pop arrangements/production.

As an aside, interesting to note who plays what bass, also ... Ol' motor-mouth is in fine form, also.
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Re: pop production

Post by Scodiddly » Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:09 pm

Guess I'll have to check out that Stones record... wasn't ever really a Foo fan.

The pop/disco thing about the Stones is kind of interesting, though - "Miss You" was supposed to be a sop to Mick who really wanted to go disco. But it's got such an interesting vibe, and that bass line... 8)

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Re: pop production

Post by digitaldrummer » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:13 am

Scodiddly wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:09 pm
and that bass line... 8)
definitely one of the greatest bass lines ever!
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Re: pop production

Post by vvv » Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:23 am

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