amps vs. simulators

[digitaldrummer]

The UAD B-15N can be nice on some DI'd bass tracks (although it's really the Brainworx B-15N and they sound the same in my experience - PA version is just cheaper)

[TapeOpLarry]

Next issue of Tape Op has a long review of the UAFX Guitar Pedals. The amp/speaker simulating stuff seems pretty cool, and I could see building a DI gtr recording rig with these boxes for sure. I love moving air wit am amp and putting up mics, but there are lots of times I'd love to have the sound even more controllable or closer to the listener.
PS: I dig the LA-2A and 1176 pedals a lot! Never had that kind of control before.

[markjazzbassist]

these are perfect for smaller tours or overseas tours where you can't fly with much due to costs and don't want to rent backline (expensive) and can travel in smaller vehicles (save money). Bass has always been able to just DI and it's fine, use monitors (venue provides) or In Ears. Same with keyboards/synths, no amp needed. Guitar was always the tough one, they needed the amp and that takes up space (compare to just 2 small Radial JDI for Keys and Bass) but i see this as bridging that gap, making it ok to just DI for guitar as well, they just rock the pedalboard. You could do a whole tour with the only thing on stage drums and house monitors. easy load in/out and everyone on in-ears. the van wouldn't even be packed tight!

[vvv]

FWIW, while I feel I can rock - the band can rock 0- with AIB's, it still ain't the same rock as with hot amps.

IT

JUST

AIN'T.

But we are getting some good results.

Also FWIW, we are using a buncha different stuff, T-21, Catalinbread, cab sims (Omnicab, at the mo'), Lovepedal as "amps"

And we are putting pedals in front.

[digitaldrummer]

Rush did their last few tours with only IEMs and amp sims. The only thing on stage was the band, a few drums, and the chicken rotisseries. it sounded great when I saw them (and that was several years ago).

[vvv]

... and the chicken rotisseries.

Say what?

[digitaldrummer]

[drumsound]

Rush did their last few tours with only IEMs and amp sims. The only thing on stage was the band, a few drums, and the chicken rotisseries. it sounded great when I saw them (and that was several years ago).

Didn't Alex Lifeson still use amps? I thought it was just Geddy's side with the rotisserie or laundry machines.

[Scodiddly]

Didn't Alex Lifeson still use amps? I thought it was just Geddy's side with the rotisserie or laundry machines.

At some point Alex even went IEM, and had some steampunk styled "amps" which might have still contained a speaker or two.

[vvv]

[roscoenyc]

Next issue of Tape Op has a long review of the UAFX Guitar Pedals. The amp/speaker simulating stuff seems pretty cool, and I could see building a DI gtr recording rig with these boxes for sure. I love moving air wit am amp and putting up mics, but there are lots of times I'd love to have the sound even more controllable or closer to the listener.
PS: I dig the LA-2A and 1176 pedals a lot! Never had that kind of control before.

I haven't tried the UA guitar pedals yet but I bet that they may perform even better than the plugins which can be hard to dial in gain wise on your DAW.

UA's OX Box is really only a half simulator. Simulates the cabinet, speaker, microphone and room. Those things sound amazing to me. You are using your amp and it really sounds like Your Amp. A bit too bulky to take on a gig. Over the years I've always been able to dial in a good sound at home with some kind of simulator but often had a nagging thing in the back of my mind like "I may have to re-do this at the studio with a real rig'. That feeling has never visited me again in the 4 years of using the OX Box at home with my amps. I liked it so much that I bought another OX Box for the studio too.

[trodden]

these are perfect for smaller tours or overseas tours where you can't fly with much due to costs and don't want to rent backline (expensive) and can travel in smaller vehicles (save money). Bass has always been able to just DI and it's fine, use monitors (venue provides) or In Ears. Same with keyboards/synths, no amp needed. Guitar was always the tough one, they needed the amp and that takes up space (compare to just 2 small Radial JDI for Keys and Bass) but i see this as bridging that gap, making it ok to just DI for guitar as well, they just rock the pedalboard. You could do a whole tour with the only thing on stage drums and house monitors. easy load in/out and everyone on in-ears. the van wouldn't even be packed tight!

This right here! And I wouldn't have snapped my arm in half in Paris if I wasn't loading out gear up a long staircase covered in slippery beer/water/sweat.

That said, if I had to get my arm snapped in half, i'm glad it happened in Paris rather than Tacoma, WA. Ambulance ride, emergency room, plus second hospital for surgery only cost me 1,600 euros!!! amazing.

[trodden]

these are perfect for smaller tours or overseas tours where you can't fly with much due to costs and don't want to rent backline (expensive) and can travel in smaller vehicles (save money). Bass has always been able to just DI and it's fine, use monitors (venue provides) or In Ears. Same with keyboards/synths, no amp needed. Guitar was always the tough one, they needed the amp and that takes up space (compare to just 2 small Radial JDI for Keys and Bass) but i see this as bridging that gap, making it ok to just DI for guitar as well, they just rock the pedalboard. You could do a whole tour with the only thing on stage drums and house monitors. easy load in/out and everyone on in-ears. the van wouldn't even be packed tight!

This right here! And I wouldn't have snapped my arm in half in Paris if I wasn't loading out gear up a long staircase covered in slippery beer/water/sweat.

That said, if I had to get my arm snapped in half, i'm glad it happened in Paris rather than Tacoma, WA. Ambulance ride, emergency room, plus second hospital for surgery only cost me 1,600 euros!!! amazing.

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[Scodiddly]

Yikes! That looks *very* painful.

I hope your arm doesn't have that bend in it now!

[drumsound]

DAMN, TRODDEN!