general questions, comments and ideas about recording, audio, music, etc.
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EletrikGutar182
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by EletrikGutar182 » Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:47 am
I have a home studio that I use for recording frequently. Most of the time I put a 57 in front of my amp (Mesa Boogie Single Recto) and occasionally a 414 behind it for some ambience. I was wondering, is there any way, using a Direct Box to use one of the (powered, 50 watt, 4 ohm or
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speaker outputs and send it DI to my computer for recording? I know that a mic will probably yield the best resluts, but I'm interested in experimentation in this case. Just looking for other ways to capture a nice distorted lead guitar
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by Slider » Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:52 am
Palmer speaker emulator.
Very midrangy and weird sounding, but direct.
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by getreel » Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:55 am
I have never like the sound I get with any type of DI from an amp. PODs are a little better becasue they have speaker simulation but I still like the sound of a speaker interacting with the air better. Maybe you could use a different dynamic mic to close mic with. Try the Sennheiser MD409 or MD421 where you usually use a 57. Even so, I always end up liking a 57 better than anything else for overdriven guitars. I like the 421 for clean guitar amp close micing or sometimes a condenser 3' to 5' away so the sound comes together a bit more.
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by fuckface » Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:56 am
ive always liked micing rather than direct guitar sounds. but my problem is i put too many mics on the thing and have mad phase problems....
im going to search the site for amp micing tecniques now ....
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by joel hamilton » Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:34 am
Hughes and kettner "red box" between the head and the cab.
Mix with mic/s.
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ampguy
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by ampguy » Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:58 am
Here's what I recommend trying if you're on a tight budget, use a $29 Behringer UltraG cab sim, to a good mic pre. For quiet recording, you'll also need to plug in a load box of appropriate impedance and power handling (I use a THD Hot Plate).
next, get a demeter ISO box.
You can also try a Palmer 04, or 03 if you can find one.
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by drliebs » Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:29 pm
The red box isn't bad but I prefer the POD and it is a lot more versatile. Everyone agrees a well miced amp sounds the best but sometimes you are in need of haste and I think the POD rocks. MD409 is one of my all time favorite guitar mics. 421's with a couple clicks of roll off are great too. 57 never sounds bad, you just can't og wrong with it. After that it is all about the amp/speaker and mic placement. Oh yeah, somewhere a person has to be able to play it too LOL
I record a lot of crunch guitar and I am usually happiest with one mic pretty close. A lot of people swear by the two mic/one off axis approach but I think it just takes the balls out of it. And the farther I move the mic, the louder I end up turning up the amp. For home recording get a POD.
If you want the line from the amp, well, most amps line outs aren't so great, unless you are going for some Type O Negative obviously fake sound.
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by 01100011 » Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:47 pm
i like micing the amp so much better.... but sometimes i will blend DI with the mic sounds
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by getreel » Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:55 pm
My Johnson J-station is not that great by itself but sounds pretty decent when I run it through a good preamp/DI. I've had good luck with my Joe Meek but I'm sure it would be even better through other higher end pres.
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by JasonW » Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:24 pm
I'm really interested in checking out the Palmer unit. I'm concerned about the "midrangey and weird" comment. Does anyone have a sound clip with this unit that they could share?
Also, isn't there a company that makes a soundproofed iso box with a 12" speaker and an SM-57 inside of it? I saw an ad for it in a guitar magazine years ago.
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by ampguy » Sat Mar 27, 2004 2:57 pm
Check this thread out:
http://63.151.115.106/board/showthread. ... ght=palmer
Also, give the $29 Behringer UltraG a try. Some prefer it to the Palmer!!
Demeter makes an ISO box with built in SM57.
JasonW wrote:I'm really interested in checking out the Palmer unit. I'm concerned about the "midrangey and weird" comment. Does anyone have a sound clip with this unit that they could share?
Also, isn't there a company that makes a soundproofed iso box with a 12" speaker and an SM-57 inside of it? I saw an ad for it in a guitar magazine years ago.
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