Classic recordings that are out of tune

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by ;ivlunsdystf » Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:02 pm

Isn't it true that Bob Dylan sped up the entire "Blood on the Tracks" album by a half step during the mastering? Not out of tune, but a variation on that theme.

Nobody dislikes Blood on the Tracks, right? Unless it's your own blood?

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by gog » Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:55 pm

marqueemoon wrote:The Smiths' "Meat Is Murder" has some horrible vocal pitch problems. I'm not talking just a bum note here or there, but whole lines and phrases that are out of tune.
i always thought was just morrisey's style... he always seemed to just kinda slide past the notes, and not really hold'em. i dig the smiths. seemed to work for what they did really well.

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by Rigsby » Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:04 am

Billie Holiday often sang flat, but when your voice is that involving, who gives a toss? Actually adds to the emotion in her case i think.
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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by Zeppelin4Life » Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:28 am

johnny7 wrote:Has no one mentioned that gawdawful solo in The Troggs "Wildthing"?
Talk about a teeth clenching moment.


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holy shit you are right. I just noticed that. what is it, a recorder? man thats bad. I never realized that until now... :shock:
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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by junior » Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:57 am

how 'bout "the girl from ipanema"?
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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by crow » Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:19 am

the solo to zeppelin's "tangerine" is awesomely out of tune.

it's intentional, but the boss hits a badass "wrong" note in the 2nd verse of "10th Ave. Freeze Out" on these words:

night is dark but the sidewalk's bright

it's cool.

ps neil young's a much better singer than you're told.

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by Paul Fury 161 » Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:21 am

Hi allz.
just to get back to the scalloped fingerboard thing, just in case anybody is wondering why they exist, the idea is that when you fret on a normal fingerboard, part of your fingertip touches the wood, slowing you down slightly, especially for bends. Some older classical stringed instruments had scalloped boards, Ritchie Blackmore was the first of the modern guys to do it.It feels a bit weird, there's the string, the fret, your finger tip, and air underneath.Good for all the hypertechnical stuff, also for bends and vibrato, NOT ideal for rhythm playing.Not my cup of tea, if i'm honest.But an Ibanez JEM is probably the best guitar to get scalloped....basically an RG550 with a hole cut in it, fancy paint and pickups. RG550 is the closest thing to a classic superstrat, i'm pretty much vintage style all the way but I have a (non-scalloped) RG550 and for some stuff it rocks like a biatch.

Anyway, back on topic, ;-p

My favourite out of tune stuff is the entire Fugazi back catalog.They rule, it doesn't matter in the slightest, andI love em.To pick just one bit, Guy's ends of phrases in the chorus of "Full Disclosure"

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by SKEETER » Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:14 am

How about Ted Nugent "Great White Buffalo", the opening when he goes to that d chord drives me nuts.
I don't know how you oculd reallly tell......

Also, it seems like I figured out Her Strut by Bob Seger years ago, and it sounded like the whole band was tuned down a half step. It is played in open "E", but the album version sounded to me like everything was tuned down to "Eb" It is not really out of tune, and it gives the song a really heavy sound.

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by bassface » Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:15 am

Yeah, astrud gilberto sang pretty out of tune, and not just on desafinado if you know what I mean.
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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by Rigsby » Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:11 pm

Paul Fury 161 wrote:My favourite out of tune stuff is the entire Fugazi back catalog.They rule, it doesn't matter in the slightest, andI love em.To pick just one bit, Guy's ends of phrases in the chorus of "Full Disclosure"

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by jamoo » Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:35 pm

lobstman wrote:Any good Neil Young song. The ones he tries too hard to sing on just sound forced.
I once heard him on NPR say he can't tune a guitar. Amazing.

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by T_Mounteney » Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:19 am

Dub and Reggae horns have been mentioned, what about all of Burning Spear's Rocking Time especially Bad to Worst. The Bass is almost a quarter tone out in parts, but it's so good. Then again all good reggae (and ska) is out of tune a little.

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by Lee Knight » Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:54 am

The guitar harmonies on Bad Company's "Can't Get Enough of Your Love". Whenever I hear that I just think, "Boy, Paul Rodgers can sing!".

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by Fieryjack » Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:50 am

Herman's Hermits: Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter. backing vocals...."daughhhterrr" = flat.

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Re: Classic recordings that are out of tune

Post by Lee Knight » Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:01 am

Fieryjack wrote:Herman's Hermits: Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter. backing vocals...."daughhhterrr" = flat.
I just bought a Greatest Hits 2 days ago and noticed the same thing. :?:

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