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Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by angopop » Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:10 am

I tried a bold experiment during the rainy weekend here in LA...I recorded a song of mine at 96k sample rate, instead of my usual 44.1.

It sounded great, and ate up a bunch of hard drive space. I noticed a few more "CPU too slow" and "increase buffer rate" messages pop up, but once I adjusted those, all seemed fine.

I didn't use a ton of plugs, but when bouncing down, the bounce handler couldn't keep up, no matter what sample or bit rate I set the bounce parameters. After I rebooted my G5, it bounced no problem.

What experiences have people had recording at this rate, or am I the last person to try this? I'll definitely try it again, but unsure yet to try it on my clients...

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by Shawn Simmons » Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:14 am

99% of everything I do is at 96 khz. It may take up more room on the hard drive but now that a 120 Gb firewire drive is around $150, I don't sweat it anymore. Hi-Res is the shit.

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by JGriffin » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:05 pm

I haven't gone to it yet 'cause the system at work is still stuck at 24 bit/44.1kHz at max. But in three weeks we upgrade to PTHD so I will try some of that out.
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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by rainsinvelvet » Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:33 pm

I've been doing all of my projects at 24/96 lately and it would be hard to go back. We are running a PTHD excel II system so that helps with the chunk factor.

Hard drives are cheap so 96 is the way for me..

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by angopop » Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:12 pm

Thanks.

Anyone running 24/96 on a Digi 002,that's what I'm using? I'm wondering how hard I can run it...I've also got a Glyph FW drive, they've got that quiet and sturdy reputation....

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by rolandk » Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:49 pm

So whats the deal with running the 002 at 96K? You can only use the analog and s/pdif inputs and not the lightpipe, or something like that?
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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by joel hamilton » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:31 pm

Does anything run lightpipe at 96k? Does it support it?

I run PTHD at 88.2 for high res recording. All the guys I know that record huge records are just using 88.2. I bet that would save a LITTLE for the 002 setup you are talking about. I use it because it sounds great, 88.2 is so far past the nyquist anyway....

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by Huntlabs » Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:36 pm

Hey Roland,

96 on the 002 for the light pipe means you have to use two light pipes cables. 1-4 on one and 5-8 on the other.

I think the SPDIF works the same.... course I'm still shucking along with my 001 at 44.1 / 24.

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by adoigi » Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:04 am

Who's at Dublin???

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by Cojonesonasteek » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:12 am

I have used a 002 tracking at 96 or 88.2 exclusively with no problems. The converters aren't as nice as on my 192 I/Os (for my HD Accel 3 system) but are better than those in the 001 or Mbox. I get by with the eight-channels-at-a-time tracking limitation (I don't have an external 2 ch ADC for the S/PDIF input). Not sure what Huntlabs means about using two Lightpipe cables on a 002, mine only has one in and one out, and my understanding is that the Lightpipe optical interface will not pass signal above 48k (an optical S/PDIF input will accept up to 96k).

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by Huntlabs » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:53 am

My bad, my Octopre has two lightpipe outs and will support 96 output using two cables...

I thought the 002 had two lightpipe ins.

I was wrong. :oops:

I wish it did support it on the lightpipe side....

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by Red Rockets Glare » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:47 am

I love 24/96 on my Digi 002 Rack, it has so much more depth than anything lower resolution.
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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by KennyLusk » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:04 am

96kHz hi-res is absolutely addictive. I made the decision yesterday to track everything at 96kHz from now on and print my final mixes to tape.

No more 44.1 for me man.

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by Cojonesonasteek » Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:21 pm

Huntlabs wrote:My bad, my Octopre has two lightpipe outs and will support 96 output using two cables...

This is interesting - I must have misunderstood my Digi rep when he said that Lightpipe (the ADAT optical format) wouldn't pass signal above 48k. I know several folks (and now you!) who use an OctoPre to track additional channels into their 002 but only at 44.1/48k. I was not aware you could do the old "Paq-Rat" style splitting trick with a Lightpipe. I wonder why Digi didn't incorporate this feature into the 002 (allowing us to bring four digital tracks at 88.2/96k via Lightpipe as well as the eight channels at 44.1/48k). The ability to record twelve tracks at a time would be a huge advantage with a 002. I'll ask my Digi rep if he has any insights into this.

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Re: Recording Pro Tools at 96k Sample Rate on Digi 002?

Post by punkrockdude » Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:39 am

I am an amateur recorder just for record.
I have recorded in 96kHz/24bit on my computer. I use all native plugins and the computer gets slow pretty quick for me. I will wait until I have a little faster computer before I continue to record in 96kHz/24bit.

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