shellac/albini drum sound

[judecca]

this was a recent request of some clients coming in to track soon. "huge" was the word they kept repeating. i use an hhb radius 50 mic pre and a tascam dm24 console to a fostex d160 via adat. available mic's: audix d-1 d-2 (2) d-4 d-6; akg d112, c-1000 (2) , c-3000, oktava mk319 (2), mk012 (hyper or cardiod capsule) ml52 ribbon; shure sm57 (2), sm58; mxl990, 603s; teac omni condenser (late 70's?). tama rockstar kit on a 9" riser. room is 28' x 25' and reasonably dead. suggestions?

[bobbydj]

There's a lot of info on the EA site. Although there was a thread here on this topic the other day/week/month/year. Probably all of the above. Just use the C-1000s. J/k.

[Leopold]

Well the one thing that stands out is you mentioned your room sounding pretty dead and Albini seems to use quite a few room mics and incorporate that into the sound. I'd say that that is one of the most significant characteristics of his drum sound.


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[JohnDavisNYC]

yeah, maybe getting some big sheets of plywood or something to liven up the room sound. room mics on sheets of plywood lying on the floor in front of the kit or soething stupid like that.

john

[Wilkesin]

UTFSF!!!

HAHHAHA, it's weird having been around here long enough to say that now...

Anyway the albini drum sound thread is here:

http://messageboard.tapeop.com/viewtopi ... c&start=15

[JasonW]

A decidedly un-Albini answer, but a quick cure for a dead room is to run your overheads into a DAW and process w/ Altiverb. Pick your own room sound.

[googacky]

if your room is dead, you'll be fighting an uphill battle. you definitely need to liven up the room for the sound you're going for. i'm not sure if it's covered in the other thread, but using stereo room mics and delaying them 20 or 30 ms helps achieve that ambience. you'll still need a lively sounding space for this to work, however. good luck!

[offal]

This might not help much with the dead room situation, but Albini describes how he uses boundary mics on a thread on the electrical audio message boards. I'm at work and don't have time to find them, but do a search on neurosis and don cab and you should find those threads eventually. I think the neurosis one mihgt mention the "kentucky room" in the topic title.

good luck
sam

[fremitus]

albini hates compression, or at least refers to it as the hack engineers room fix. but if one were to ask me how to make a dead room sound huge? well, i'd compress the overheads. not an albini answer at all...

[bellulah]

fremitus - i am mesmerized by your avatar.

that's a fucking albini answer.

[squizo]

That fucking avatar is killer....what was the topic again!?

[marcusb]

a bit of stripey compression on the nipples gives you a boob fix ..

oh .. drums ..

[EoiNius]

I'm probably wrong but I think i read somewhere that Albini uses a woofer on the kick from time to time to get that huge sub bass sound...

Try using those hollow cardboard poster tubes directed towards the sound source with a mic at the end...that can produce some interesting sounds

[madtho]

I think Albini runs drums through the Doepfer A-100 Modular Synth

-mad

[Rigsby]

fremitus - i am mesmerized by your avatar.

that's a fucking albini answer.

Wow, i never really thought she was hot before now, but now ..woah there stallion.



I love the fact that the url it's from is 'touchpants.com'