How close to the real thing do UAD-1 Plug-In's sound?

jtotheg · Post by **jtotheg** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:50 am

Just curious if anyone can comment on how close to the "Real thing" do plug-ins on the UAD-1 sound?

i.e. the 1176, Pultec, Joe Meek, etc...

The Studio Pak sure has some nice lookin plug-ins...

I'm rebuilding my digital setup & am considering the UAD-1 & a 002.

nacho459 · Post by **nacho459** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:32 am

Close enough for what you're paying. They kick the crap out of most stock plugins, and are relatively inexpensive. I think there a good value.

Marcus H. · Post by **Marcus H.** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:56 am

will the UAD-1 work with a 002?

citystate · Post by **citystate** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:56 am

Can anyone definitively confirm or deny the UAD having latency issues with a G5?

I've heard rumours of this but nothing concrete.

cgarges · Post by **cgarges** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:27 am

If you have to ask and/or you've never used the hardware units, you'll probably love the pug-ins.

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

nacho459 · Post by **nacho459** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:35 am

citystate wrote:Can anyone definitively confirm or deny the UAD having latency issues with a G5?

I've heard rumours of this but nothing concrete.

UAD-1 has latency issues with Pro Tools. More accurately PT does not have auto latency correction like other programs do, but there are ways around it that aren't too difficult, but you can't really use them while tracking in PT. I keep bugging UA and Digi to fix this, according to UA it's up to Digi to make it happen.

lonesome_tone · Post by **lonesome_tone** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:39 pm

well it's a workaround using a vst wrapper, and digi has a vested interest in you buying the rtas ones instead (especially now that they OWN bombfactory...) i'm surprised if the functionality to use the UAD stuff isn't outright written out of the program come next version...

joel hamilton · Post by **joel hamilton** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:07 am

cgarges wrote:If you have to ask and/or you've never used the hardware units, you'll probably love the pug-ins.

Chris Garges
Charlotte, NC

That is very true. I havent heard a plug in that really sounds much like anything in "the real world."

Plug in stuff works quite well for certain things, but it certainly does not "replace" anything at all.

Even if the little picture looks just like a fairchild....

MoreSpaceEcho · Post by **MoreSpaceEcho** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:29 am

nacho459 wrote: More accurately PT does not have auto latency correction like other programs do.

still? i thought they implemented that in whatever the latest version is?

spankenstein · Post by **spankenstein** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:34 am

The HD Accel systesm have compensation.

tintern · Post by **tintern** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:47 pm

I've been looking at these for awhile but they don't say if they will work with Cool Edit Pro or Adobe Audition. Anyone have any information/know if anyone's tried this?

soundguy · Post by **soundguy** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:40 pm

Joel Hamilton wrote: Even if the little picture looks just like a fairchild....

wait a minute, you are saying the plug doesnt sound like a real fairchild?

thats CRAZY.

dave

joel hamilton · Post by **joel hamilton** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:07 pm

spankenstein wrote:The HD Accel systesm have compensation.

All the HD systems have delay compensation now, it is a feature included in PTHD 6.4.

I dont even use it. I also dont mix in the box or use many plugs. If I lose something due to sample shifts in processing something, I just slide the track back if needed. Just click on the volume window of that track and hold down command, it will show you the peak, the latency, and the volume the fader is at. I also dont do bonehead stuff like use a plug in on only one side of a stereo pair... etc...

If I use a plug in it is for effect only, or maybe a C4 on a questionably tracked vocal just to get it happening a little before leaving the box for actual compression and effects or whatever we are doing to it at the console.

I just never find that the 1176 sounds anything like any 1176 I have owned, or own, or the LA2A, or any of those. I actually think the RenComp is better than those anyway, even if the graphical representation isnt as cute. It is actually more useful, and the expander RULES in the Ren Comp.

It is just like hardware: If the knobs are giant (even virtual knobs) it must sound better than the thing with small knobs, right?

thearnicasync · Post by **thearnicasync** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:13 pm

I'll second and third the previous response about the renaissance comp. I still use it all the time. I also like the renaissance vox...it does more of what I thought the la2a plug was going to do.

If it weren't for the Pultec (pro), I'd sell my uad. The 1176 is neat, but I hate it on as many things than I like it on, if not more. The UAD is cool, but it gets more and more of a bummer the more I want to get a good comp and a powerbook.

I do like that Fairchild plug, though!

kb

jtotheg · Post by **jtotheg** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:17 pm

So you saying it does sound like the real thing then?

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