Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

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Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by Kazawa Atoll » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:22 pm

Hey there. I', just starting to get my home recording gear set-up (I've already got a Tascam four-track and condensor), and my birthday is coming up. I was wondering if I shouls ask for a 58 or a 57. I do a lot of simple acoustic an vocal stuff, but sometimes I incorporate full bands. Anyways, which one should I buy if I'm going to use it primarily for vocals and the occasional acoustic guitar or amp cab?

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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by llmonty » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:28 pm

well if we are talking 1 mic, i would go with a 58. you can always take the screen off if you want more of a 57 sound. if you get into full band stuff, ultimately you will need at least another mic (at the least - if it was that easy we wouldn't need these boards!).
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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by Kazawa Atoll » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:39 pm

thanks. I'm actually borrowing a 58 from my friend right now and i love it, but i hadn't tried a 57. when I said full band, I mean that i played all the instruments myself, but that it had all the instruments. I've figured out how to make it sound pretty good with the 58 and a mxl 2001.

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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by earth tones » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:44 pm

But the 57 is "classic", man. Don't you want classic??? Ha

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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by Mark Alan Miller » Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:13 pm

'57 in my book.
Even with the screen off, the '58 sounds pokey in the mids to me, which limits its usefulness, IMO.

(I subscribe to the belief that the '57 is a swiss-army-knife of mics, like many do.)
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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by SKEETER » Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:51 pm

I prefer Behringer XM 8500 mics to either the 57 or 58. If you are recording acoustic, I would try to find a cheaper condensor if you are going to record acoustic guitars, dynamic mics really don't do that good a job on acoustic guitars.

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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by joelpatterson » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:02 pm

I went into my local Guitar Center thinking I wanted a 58 and came out instead with a Sennheiser e835. The top end was much... smoother? Swan-like? Gracious? Don't know how to describe it... 58 was just so... shrizzly, whatever that's supposed to mean.

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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by Mark Alan Miller » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:22 pm

SKEETER wrote: I would try to find a cheaper condensor if you are going to record acoustic guitars, dynamic mics really don't do that good a job on acoustic guitars.
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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by vvv » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:41 pm

joelpatterson wrote:... 58 was just so... shrizzly, whatever that's supposed to mean.
I don't know but I do, yeah, like, "shrizzly", mang. :lol:
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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by s2 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:32 am

The 57 and 58 actually use the same capsule. Pretty much the only difference is the windscreen, which does affect the frequency range a bit.

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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by fremitus » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:42 am

if you can get them to spring for a beta57a then you're talking a decent all-around mic. tighter pattern, much better lows and none of that shrizzly stuff i've heard so much about...

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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by markee2004 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:43 am

SM57
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SM58
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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by Kazawa Atoll » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:49 pm

Thanks for all the input, guys. My next question is, with th type of music I play (acoustic/vocal/occasional piano, etc.), and considering the fact that the only mic I actually own is an MXL 2001, what would be the logical next purchase in terms of a new microphone?

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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by Meriphew » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:52 pm

IMO you can't go wrong with either ( 57 or 58 ). They're both mics that you'll prolly still be using 20 years from now.

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Re: Newbie......sm58 or an sm57?

Post by Zeppelin4Life » Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:30 pm

I say 57. you can use a 57 on guitar and vocals. you use a 58 on vocals but I cant see it on guitar. but the SM57 has been used on like kick drums, so what the hell do I know



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