do snakes affect signal quality?

psychicoctopus · Post by **psychicoctopus** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:12 pm

Would there be a difference in signal quality if I'm using a 50' snake as opposed to a 100' snake for recording? I'd probably be sending phantom power through the snake as well. It seems like shorter would be better, although the problems with long mic lines were probably worked out a long time ago...

Also, are there brands to avoid when 'snake shopping'?

thanks yall
eric

axial · Post by **axial** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:33 pm

not a xlr, but if its trs then yes, I believe you don't want over 20ft trs

kylethompson · Post by **kylethompson** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:41 pm

I could be wrong, but my instincts tell me that balanced line is balanced line and that TRS and xlr connectors don't have a "sound" or particular noise problems inherently. Now TS (or any unbalanced line)... thats a different story. Lots 'o noise potential there. Of course early manly gear and almost all Neotek gear is largely unbalanced and people still use that.

And don't run phantom on anything but XLR terminated snakes. TT and TRS connectors can short out the phantom voltage when insterted.

axial · Post by **axial** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:45 pm

ahhh maybe its time delay with longer trs, I was thinking about, hmmm

thempt · Post by **thempt** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:21 pm

kylethompson · Post by **kylethompson** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:25 pm

_Sounds like the kind of bullshit that people like Monster Cable want everyone to believe.

Agreed. The only cool thing about monster is their lifetime warranty.

I cringe everytime I go over to a friend's house and they try to impress the recording engineer with their Monstor rca cables.
Them: "It sounds way better than before!"
Me: "Really? You did an A-B test?"
Them: <silence>

thempt · Post by **thempt** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:30 pm

psychicoctopus · Post by **psychicoctopus** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:34 pm

_Sounds like the kind of bullshit that people like Monster Cable want everyone to believe.

Ha! Is anybody interested in buying my BBE Sonic Maximizer? It aligns the frequency-time-phase-ratios coming to your ears, which sounds exactly like pulling a blanket off your speakers.

psychicoctopus · Post by **psychicoctopus** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:36 pm

thempt wrote:The sad thing is that it is certainly possible to hear a difference between some cables.

Is the capacitance issue something you'll run encounter with cheaper snakes, i.e. ProCo, Rapco, Hosa, etc... ?

axial · Post by **axial** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:45 pm

kewl least now I know, I wonder where i heard delay from, it was sittuation where I was running peoples amp in many seperate rooms so everyone could be in the same room and see eachother, we thought they could just get a longer guitar cable and somehow I don't member exactly it got shot down, and we ended up sacrificing some seperation, I dunno, anyways thanx

wing · Post by **wing** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:53 pm

i have this old no name snake, 100 ft, probably from the 70s... i've always been kind of weary to record with it. kinda afraid it's gonna have crazy noise and crap in it. hmm...

thempt · Post by **thempt** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:55 pm

kylethompson · Post by **kylethompson** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:57 pm

axial wrote:kewl least now I know, I wonder where i heard delay from, it was sittuation where I was running peoples amp in many seperate rooms so everyone could be in the same room and see eachother, we thought they could just get a longer guitar cable and somehow I don't member exactly it got shot down, and we ended up sacrificing some seperation, I dunno, anyways thanx

Latency? Are you recording digitally?

thempt · Post by **thempt** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:58 pm

axial · Post by **axial** » Mon Sep 29, 2003 4:02 pm

no not digital, but yeah there was something like that some kinda deteration or something, I dunno, anyways now we have a huge snake so we don't have the same problems, thanx

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