Recording audio into a pregap...

[cc]

Does anyone know how to record audio into a pregap on an CD?

[housepig]

look to the old board and do a search - this was covered pretty exhaustively in one of the threads there, as I recall...

- housepig

[@?,*???&?]

I have heard of a few discs where that was done. Songs that play before the first start id on the disc and the only way to access the track is to scan back after the first song starts. Check with a real mastering facility in New York or Los Angeles.

[NewAndImprov]

I toyed with doing this on the cd I just finished, and eventually decided against it. I did it in Adaptec Jam on a Macintosh . You have to have the audio that you want in the pregap at the beginning of the audio file. Say you want to have a 6-second spoken work intro to a tune in the pregap. In Jam, you'd set the gap to 6 seconds, then double click on the file name, in the dialog that pops up, you select "Audio starts in pregap". That's all.

The problem that I found is that various CD players handled the audio in the gap differently. Itunes appended the gap audio onto the end of the previous track, which seems totally wrong to me.

[bblackwood]

It's not difficult to do, but how you do it (or whether or not you even can) depends on your software.

Remember, this is outside of redbook - if you do this (I've done it on several releases over the years), your client needs to check with the plant to insure they know it's there and will replicate it...

[cc]

Thank you all for your info/advice. I had a couple of interlude tracks that I wanted to float in before the longer songs, and I thought that putting them in some of the pregaps would be interesting. Right now, I just have the Nero burning rom (PC). I don't have anything like a cue sheet editor, and I'm not entirely sure whether or not I can do it with my software. I'll keep researching though.

[markpar]

I believe Wavelab will let you do this kind of thing.

-mark

[cc]

Excellent, I have wavelab. I'll give it a shot, thanks.

[assfortress]

i use sonic foundry cd architect, its really easy to do that.

[markpar]

I just checked... you can do this in Wavelab. Use an Audio Montage and insert track markers so that you have audio that is between the end of track X and before the beginning of track X+1.

-mark

[cc]

Thanks, Mark.

[cc]

Which version of Wavelab are you running? I'm using 3.0

I set up the track how I wanted them, and when I went to burn a test CD, it just gave me a prompt saying that some of the clips were not included in the CD tracks and that this is not allowed in order to burn a CD. Did that happen to you?

[markpar]

Oh crap, I'm using 4.0. I don't know how it works in 3.0. Sorry, man.

-mark