The gear thread for people with no gear.

Auxillary · Post by **Auxillary** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 7:21 am

It is time to be proud. I remember when I was there. This is the gear thread for people who only have very little gear, cheap gear, black-listed gear akak behringer or mackie, or make great music with equipment that people never recommend. To start I will begin with my most used and favorite equipment at home.

Behringer patchbay
Behringer tube ultragain 1953
Cheap japanese strat
Crate guitar amps. Four of them
Realistic reverb units
Lowry organ
Fender squier 15w guitar amp though a crate 412 cabinet
Fender squier p-bass with defretted and extremely noisy
Sabian b8 cymbals

At work I have a lot of expensive stuff, and a lot of the time it does not sound better. Just different. I always hear how humbling it is to have a 57 win out over an AKG or Neumann. Until it happens to you, every day, over and over, It just is not real. Then your whole world is upside down. And it keeps happening to me. You start asking yourself, is it really worth 2000 dollars more to have a mic sound only better 50 percent of the time? This is bugging me.

Secondary rant. Why is it so fucking cool to buy a guitar made in japan or chinia or taiwan that is copying an american classic. Strat, lp, tele, or whatever. But if you buy a preamp or bass amp or whatever from behringer that copies someone else. You are not worthy to record music. Pure hypocrisy. Im fucking cooler than all of you now because I have righteous discourse! Or not.

Al · Post by Al » Fri Nov 28, 2003 7:46 am

Phonic stereo comp with gate , suits me!...Focusrite platinum range are very good, and that's about as extravagant it's going to get for me regarding that stuff!....does that qualify fo having no gear?..

I have a Studiomaster desk and a Fostex B16 in good condition, that all probably cost over 5 grand when it was new, i paid 400 quid for the lot

i'm still amused to death by that!!....does that STILL qualify as having no gear??

Oh! and i do have a Behringer patch bay....is this still on thread??

Al

black mariah · Post by **black mariah** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 7:52 am

I hear where you're coming from. The most expensive equipment in the world isn't worth dick unless the dude behind the board knows what he's doing. A sampling of my gear:

Jackson guitars (Two King V's and a Soloist)
Peavey, Sunn, and Carvin amps
Carvin and Jackson speaker cabinets
Ross RCS-2402 mixing board
Fostex 80 1/4" 8 track
Linux. LINUX! For recording stuff.

A friend of mine had some of those B8 cymbals when he first started playing drums. They're still the best sounding cymbals I've heard.

I can answer your question about the cheapass guitars. A bad guitar will still sound interesting, but a bad compressor will just sound like shit. This doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to basically colorless equipment like Behringer mixers though. The preamps might sound shitty and the EQ section might be weakass, but you work with it. You take what's in front of you and you run with it. That' $100 compressor might sound like shit, but you never know when shitty compression is what you need. That $150 tube mic pre isn't as good as a $5000 mic pre, but it's DIFFERENT and that's what matters.

bedbug · Post by **bedbug** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:29 am

Ladies and Gentlemen ...

The much debated Oktava and the much scrutinized Behringer. My Sigma acoustic (which is awesome) and the world's worst sounding Roland keyboard crept their way into the picture.

Anyone else own one of these?

We can start a Lindert club.[/img]

vvv · Post by **vvv** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:08 am

I record on a vintage BR8, classic edition. I use a Mackie board, a Meek VC3Q, MXL, Shure and Behringer mic.'s, CEP, etc. and I really don't want a Studer, SSL, Neve, Nuemann, Pro-Tools, Radar anything.

OK, I lied.

But I do what I do, I am what I am, and the music I make makes me the man. Uh, that I am.

And most important, I get to make music.

bobbydj · Post by **bobbydj** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:26 am

ctmsound · Post by **ctmsound** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:31 am

Yeah, having low end gear is a pain, but I make due:

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:32 am

Bobbydj-- is that an Olivia Tremor Control record I see?

bobbydj · Post by **bobbydj** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:39 am

Jay wrote:Bobbydj-- is that an Olivia Tremor Control record I see?

Heh - absolutely. I got in Selectadisc, Nottingham (2nd hand) for 2 squid! Yaay for me!

Me in full-on limey mode -

aeonrevolution · Post by **aeonrevolution** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 12:14 pm

You guys aint got nothing on low end crappy gear.

-Berigner Eurorack mx 802a
-3 nady starpower mics (buy one get two free baby)
- epiphone sg with paf humbackers
- big muff, morley wah, electro sitar, hendrix fuzz octave
- the crappy epiphone starter amp that came with my starter guitar which is soon to be replaced by the pathfinder

bedbug · Post by **bedbug** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 7:32 am

bobbydj wrote:
Jay wrote:Bobbydj-- is that an Olivia Tremor Control record I see?
Heh - absolutely. I got in Selectadisc, Nottingham (2nd hand) for 2 squid! Yaay for me!

Yeah! Black Foliage!

axial · Post by **axial** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 1:17 pm

whats the electro sitar?

and is it good?

Jackson Michaels · Post by **Jackson Michaels** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:06 am

Here's everything I used on the demo I made of my band a couple weeks ago:
Tascam 244
Behringer B-2 Pro
Mackie CFX16 (only for the preamps)
Ampeg 115 Bass Amp
Behringer KX1200 Keyboard Amp
Ibanez "Soundtank" compressor pedal
Tube Screamer
My synth setup (Alesis SR-16, Korg Poly800, Yamaha TX81Z, Alesis MMT-8)
My bass which is a Fender Squire neck put on a "Jammer" (I'd never heard of the brand before) body
and then to "master" it I used the BBE Sonic Maximizer and a Fostex compressor/limiter whose model I can't recall

A good song on a bad recording is always more fun to listen to than a bad song on a great recording (or a bad song on a bad recording)
if you wanna hear what I recorded with that junk go to www.hairychestedrecords.com/mp3s.html and it's the "Boogdish November Demo"

joel hamilton · Post by **joel hamilton** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:01 am

Cheap stuff I use on almost everything I mix:

Effectron II's (2).
Symetrix CL150 Comp/limiter(1)
Bass sansamp
Silver face LA4
Electrix MoFX
Allison research Passive notch filter (40 bucks)
DBX160A's

Sometimes:
DBX166XL
Presonus ACP88 for gates and compression.

All of these items are worth way more functioally than the price they fetch.

tony moore · Post by **tony moore** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 1:15 pm

now here's i thread i can dig!

i reverted earlier in the year from some very esoteric, vintage gear that only worked a fraction of the time i wanted to use it, to the land of prosumer. and guess what, the time i spent actually MAKING and RECORDING music increased exponentially. tho not completely low end, here's my current rig:

alesis adat hdr
yamaha 01v96
lil' mackie mixer
aphex 207 pre (2)
art pro mpa pre
fmr rnp
fmr rnc (2)
art pro vla comp (2)
dbx 166 comp
retrospec squeezebox
sansamp pedal
rode nt2
rode ntk
oktava 012 (2)
ev dymanic omni's (2)
stapes omni (2)
senn 421
sm57 (4)
various fx pedals

great thread joel...

tony

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