Has anyone used this to mic their kicks,,,, or anything else

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Re: Has anyone used this to mic their kicks,,,, or anything

Post by joel hamilton » Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:30 pm

pedalboy wrote:Those of you who are using a transformer with it, what's the advantage to doing this? Also do you have any suggestions for which transforers to use?

And Joel Hamilton, do you have any more info on the speaker with the reverb tank built into it?? That sounds crazy! Was it just audio coming into a reverb tank and straight out into the speaker or what?

Thanks.
It was made by a company called "cleveland electronics" in the early 60's.
It is totally just a little spring tank built onto the magnet structure with inpputs for speaker level. "no battery needed" as the box says. The box has these awesome red and yellow 60's drawings of a gothic cathedral on it. So weird. My '64 rambler ambassador had a tube delay unit in the trunk for this same kind of "concert sound" thing. I think that is what they called it.

On topic:

It sounds really good as a mic with built in 'verb.....So weird, but kind of awesome that it exists at ALL!

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Re: Has anyone used this to mic their kicks,,,, or anything

Post by fremitus » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:31 pm

this takes the whole concept to a slightly different place, but i keep an old cb700 kick drum shell in the drum room at the studio and almost always place it in front of the drummer's kick with an omni mic (usu. an Earthworks TC40K) on the far side of it. blanket over the top of both shells. Of course there is a mic in the primary shell and often a 441 on the batter for some click. With the three mic's you can ALWAYS get an agreeable sound out of even the shittiest drum. It takes some tweaking and some phase fucking and some listening, but it's just another way to go about it. If'n you have an extra kick shell lying around that is. I have a cheap 10" subwoofer (mounted in a wooden box)that i've used a few times for the same style of the thread. Very cool, out there and not always useful, but cool and a good trick to have in yer bag for sure...

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Re: Has anyone used this to mic their kicks,,,, or anything

Post by junior » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:32 pm

Everybody's X wrote:it's the plastic end caps they sell at home depot that covers the end of lattice work on a deck or something. It's just something I had lying around
I wouldnt recommend it because the weight of the woofer makes it bend.
use some angle iron or something like that
cool. i'll take a look around at home depot... btw, what size speaker are you using? i just checked out the yamaha subkick and the specs say it uses a 6.5" driver suspended inside a 10" drum shell. that's a bit smaller than it seems some people are using (up to 15"). any advice on what size/brand/etc speaker would work best for this purpose?

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Re: Has anyone used this to mic their kicks,,,, or anything

Post by Everybody's X » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:47 pm

I stole the design idea from Michael Wagener, he uses a 6.5 inch infinity speaker as well and he says he's tried alot of them and thinks that 6.5 or smaller is best.

His discography has about 70 million more sales on it than mine, so he probably knows what he's talking about :P

Any speaker will work though.I just happened to have an 8" handy (sounds like a great line from a porno)
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Re: Has anyone used this to mic their kicks,,,, or anything

Post by junior » Wed Feb 09, 2005 5:00 pm

hehehe... thanks, dave ;)
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