Maybe Tonight - the Idaho Falls

Red Rockets Glare · Post by **Red Rockets Glare** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:00 am

Hey Folks,
Just finished another mix and wanted to hear what you think.
The last one was all analog, this one was all digital.
I'd be glad to list details if anyone is interested.
Cheers,
Raymond

Maybe Tonight

mjau · Post by **mjau** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:05 am

FWIW - this sounds GREAT on my speakers at work. I like the lap steel especially, and the bass is nice too.

Red Rockets Glare · Post by **Red Rockets Glare** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:22 am

damn, if the bass is sounding right on little speakers I am in heaven.
That's a pedal steel guitar by the way, the kind you sit down at and smash pedals to change the tuning of the strings.
Thanks man!

chacabuco · Post by **chacabuco** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:22 am

mix sounds great to me. Howd you record the steel, sounds really nice

helmuth · Post by **helmuth** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:09 pm

It sounds really great, nice job!
The vocals seems to get weird in the first verse though, something with the compression, a pumping thing. They also get a bit covered when everything brakes lose. But it sounds so massive as it is so I'm not so sure you should try to fix it.

Red Rockets Glare · Post by **Red Rockets Glare** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:36 am

chacabuco wrote:mix sounds great to me. Howd you record the steel, sounds really nice

The steel was going through a Fender twin into a heavily modified Oktava ML52 then into a Grace 101 preamp, and finally I used Waves L1 limiter to make it sit nicely in the mix.

That, and he's a great steel player.

thanks chaca!

Red Rockets Glare · Post by **Red Rockets Glare** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:40 am

eskimo wrote:It sounds really great, nice job!
The vocals seems to get weird in the first verse though, something with the compression, a pumping thing. They also get a bit covered when everything brakes lose. But it sounds so massive as it is so I'm not so sure you should try to fix it.

hi eskimo, thanks for taking a listen!
I'm hearing a lot of compression on the vocals for sure, but I don't hear pumping, can you describe where you hear it the worst?
I like how the vocals don't stay on top the entire time, I kind of try to have the music surround the vocalist more than just sit behind them.
Thanks!

mjau · Post by **mjau** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:33 pm

This might be a dumb question, but during the first verse, is it a brush on the snare, or is it an actual broom on a hard surface?

mjau · Post by **mjau** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:35 pm

...and what is the synth being used around 2 minutes? Good sound.

Red Rockets Glare · Post by **Red Rockets Glare** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:04 pm

hi mjau,

The drummer saw the Neil Young drummer use a broom so he had to too. Hahahah!
Do you like how it sounds?

That synth is an EMU, again, it's the drummer playing it. He's not a trained musician, but man, he comes up with some great synth parts!

Thanks for taking a listen!

Cheers,
Raymond

mjau · Post by **mjau** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:13 pm

Yeah, I kinda had the Neil Young thing in mind when I heard it, so that's great. Good choice of sound there.

helmuth · Post by **helmuth** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:22 pm

Red Rockets Glare wrote: hi eskimo, thanks for taking a listen!
I'm hearing a lot of compression on the vocals for sure, but I don't hear pumping, can you describe where you hear it the worst?
I like how the vocals don't stay on top the entire time, I kind of try to have the music surround the vocalist more than just sit behind them.
Thanks!

now I can't even find it

perhaps it's one of those things you only hear the first time.

no worries then

Red Rockets Glare · Post by **Red Rockets Glare** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:53 pm

eskimo wrote:
Red Rockets Glare wrote: hi eskimo, thanks for taking a listen!
I'm hearing a lot of compression on the vocals for sure, but I don't hear pumping, can you describe where you hear it the worst?
I like how the vocals don't stay on top the entire time, I kind of try to have the music surround the vocalist more than just sit behind them.
Thanks!
now I can't even find it
perhaps it's one of those things you only hear the first time.
no worries then

no worries, I was thinking there for a minute it was the LA-4 I used on the vocals, because they can be stereo linked and if both of the vocals are running through that they can trigger each other at the wrong time and BANG, you get pumping.

Jeremy Garber · Post by **Jeremy Garber** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:18 am

I like the over all mix, but I think the vocals are too low. It's actually a bit straining for me to understand them in some parts.

Red Rockets Glare · Post by **Red Rockets Glare** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:20 am

SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ wrote:I like the over all mix, but I think the vocals are too low. It's actually a bit straining for me to understand them in some parts.

Wow really?
I thought the vocals were overly loud until the bridge.
I am trying to keep them at a "wilco-esque" level and thought I had it.
I'll try louder when we re-mix it for the actual release and post again.

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