Songs with good/bad bridges

Discussion on new albums, developing listening skills, critical listening to others' work, as well as TOMB members' MP3 links, online recording critiques

Moderator: cgarges

RefD
on a wing and a prayer
Posts: 5993
Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:10 pm

Post by RefD » Thu May 15, 2008 8:05 pm

there's heaps of great songs out there with the simplest structures.

no need to graft on a bridge or coda or extra chorus/refrain if it's not gonna help the song.

but i'm still a fan of good bridges and (especially lately) codas...tho some ppl seem to use a coda as an excuse to tack an unrelated musical idea onto a song, which to me is kinda like surgically implanting a sightless eye into your armpit. :?
?What need is there to weep over parts of life? The whole of it calls for tears.? -- Seneca

percussion boy
carpal tunnel
Posts: 1512
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 5:51 pm
Location: Bay Area

Post by percussion boy » Fri May 16, 2008 12:43 am

Tatertot wrote:"If you don't know me by now": great classic song, no bridge, no need for one.
+999

Not to mention that the verse isn't all that radically different from the chorus.

Where do melodies like that come from? Where do singers like that come from? Even the strings are right on.
"The world don't need no more songs." - Bob Dylan

"Why does the Creator send me such knuckleheads?" - Sun Ra
.
.
.
.

User avatar
;ivlunsdystf
ghost haunting audio students
Posts: 3290
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:15 am
Location: The Great Frontier of the Southern Anoka Sand Plain
Contact:

Post by ;ivlunsdystf » Thu May 22, 2008 8:11 am

Hey percussionboy: I have just started reading "Tunesmith" by Jimmy Webb after seeing your mention of it ... that is an AWESOME book so far - I cannot set it down, actually ... thanks for steering me to that book!

percussion boy
carpal tunnel
Posts: 1512
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 5:51 pm
Location: Bay Area

Post by percussion boy » Thu May 22, 2008 8:13 pm

Yeah -- Some real helpful stuff, plus it's fun to read.

Glad you're enjoying it.
"The world don't need no more songs." - Bob Dylan

"Why does the Creator send me such knuckleheads?" - Sun Ra
.
.
.
.

JoshT
pluggin' in mics
Posts: 34
Joined: Sun May 14, 2006 5:38 pm
Location: Madison, WI/Seattle

Post by JoshT » Wed May 28, 2008 7:52 pm

As soon as I saw this thread the first thing that popped into my mind was The Police, "Every Breath You Take." I'm not a huge Police fan and really don't like that song very much, but that bridge is great.

User avatar
Gebo
suffering 'studio suck'
Posts: 421
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:07 am
Location: Western Mass

Post by Gebo » Fri May 30, 2008 10:56 am

Only the Pretenders should modulate up a whole tone in every song. Nobody else can pull it off.
The Ramones do this a lot. Its awesome.
As it was in the begining, so shall it be in the end...

Zoltar
gettin' sounds
Posts: 132
Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:39 pm
Location: Ontario Canada

bridge

Post by Zoltar » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:52 am

I like this topic. One bridge I always hated was 'the good in everyone' - Sloan. perhaps it is more intro/outro, but I think it sounds forced.

I do like the bridges of the skate rock scene, like Seaweed, Pennywise, green day, although usually formulaic.

Styx - come sail away. Oh yeah!

Smashing Pumpkins - lots on Gish and Siamese Dream, especially the heavier songs. Corgan would describe "resetting the song" which is taking the bridge to a new high/low. ok, a few choice examples - Siva, I am one, Geek USA.

Perhaps stretching the term, but the extenda-bridge in 'Right in Two' by Tool is crazy good.

User avatar
curtiswyant
re-cappin' neve
Posts: 729
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:08 pm
Location: Boston

Post by curtiswyant » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:19 am

I really like the bridges in Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get it On" and Weezer's "Buddy Holly."

kdarr
buyin' gear
Posts: 577
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:43 pm
Location: Seattle, WA

Post by kdarr » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:05 pm

Originally hailing from a metal/hardcore background, sometimes I still jokingly refer to ANY bridge in ANY song as "the mosh part."

[<|>]

User avatar
leigh
carpal tunnel
Posts: 1636
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 11:16 am
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Post by leigh » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:22 pm

It took me a while, but I finally stumbled upon one of my least favorite bridges of all time: Guns n' Roses "My Michelle".

The verse and chorus are very different (chorus is double-time from the verse), but they work together well. The bridge, on the other hand, sounds completely tacked on and crappy.

And for those here without the same sense of what constitutes a "bridge" section, I'm talking about the 8 bars that start with "everyone needs love....".

User avatar
;ivlunsdystf
ghost haunting audio students
Posts: 3290
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:15 am
Location: The Great Frontier of the Southern Anoka Sand Plain
Contact:

Post by ;ivlunsdystf » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:15 am

OK: "My Sharona" (the Knack) has the absolute WORST bridge I've ever heard. It came around on the radio last night. Holy cow. It leaves the hooks behind altogether and goes into new changes and rocks out for like a minute and half, and there is a total wank-off guitar solo. It has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the song ... and then the song just starts up again right where it left off, as soon as the guitar solo has reached the inevitable searing climax.

I think mainstream FM has traditionally cut out the 'bridge'/wank-off section altogether, as I don't remember ever hearing it before.

Rex Reason
audio school
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue May 13, 2003 12:15 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Post by Rex Reason » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:34 am

Say what you want about the guy but I've always thought that Billy Joel wrote great bridges.

I think of: My Life, Still Rock & Roll to Me, Pressure, Don't Ask Me Why, New York State of Mind, Allentown, Only the Good Die Young...

...this guy's got a million of 'em.

User avatar
Snarl 12/8
ghost haunting audio students
Posts: 3416
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:01 pm
Location: Right Cheer
Contact:

Post by Snarl 12/8 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:15 am

I love the bridge on "Aids and Armageddon" by Fishbone. It's deliciously creepy and totally groovin' at the same time. I love the way they build the tune back up out of a bridge.
Carl Keil

Almost forgot: Please steal my drum tracks. and more.

User avatar
sears
steve albini likes it
Posts: 335
Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:54 am
Location: ec md

Post by sears » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:08 am

Ultravox: The Collection has wall-to-wall great bridges. That's what they did well. I don't really like Midge Ure's voice (doesn't he sing for Muse now?) but still listen to that album for the beautiful bridges. Sleepwalk and Vienna for starters, obviously.

User avatar
lyman
re-cappin' neve
Posts: 667
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:14 pm
Location: Plymouth Rock City, MA

Post by lyman » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:55 am

"boys don't cry" has a great, concise, bridge section. it flows well and is the right length for that song.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests