my new solo record: folk/pop on cassette 8-track

Discussion on new albums, developing listening skills, critical listening to others' work, as well as TOMB members' MP3 links, online recording critiques

Moderator: cgarges

User avatar
konabuzz
takin' a dinner break
Posts: 177
Joined: Fri May 09, 2003 2:27 am
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Contact:

Post by konabuzz » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:12 pm

Oh, my.....

This is nice...nice...nice. Bravo, my friend.

As this is a recording message board, we are all fascinated with the process -- 8 track cassette? Fantastic -- I have a 238 and 234, and 34b RTR myself...love them all! But....I have to say it's the performance that really grabbed me -- I downloaded your songs and was quickly grinning...didn't even stop to consider the process till I had calmed down a bit after 3 or 4 songs - ha. Really like your songs and especially the arrangements. Huh.....wow.

As to the recording....another poster mentioned hiss...and I know he was nostalgically pining for "back in the day" but I actually have heard quite a bit worse as far as hiss goes...especially with 8 track cassette. I think you've managed your noise floor quite well. Don't hear a lot of oversaturation of the tape (which can be a pleasing effect in itself) which means you were mindfull of your gain staging among other things. Pretty clean.

One thing I must mention, as he is another fav of mine......Kelley Stoltz.

http://kelleystoltz.com/music.html

He records similarly to 388, RTR 8 track and gets great results. In fact, the comparison is striking as he is also into melodic pop with interesting arrangements, and records everything himself.

Anyway.....would like to hear more...

Peace
"Jigsaw Jazz and the Get Fresh Flow"


http://www.youtube.com/user/simpletech?feature=mhee

kayagum
ghost haunting audio students
Posts: 3486
Joined: Wed May 07, 2003 11:11 pm
Location: Saint Paul, MN

Post by kayagum » Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:05 am

Another 388 advocate is the original TapeOp fave (as in issue #1 from 1996!) is FM Cornog of East River Pipe fame.

Another fun 8 track cassette band: cLOUDEAD (anyone know which model?)

I will forever think about recording in terms of my beloved 238s - even after I sold it to fellow TapeOper ;ivlunsdystf after he made an unsolicited offer :)
"Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't." ~ Erica Jong

"No one wants advice ? only corroboration." ~ John Steinbeck

User avatar
austin
takin' a dinner break
Posts: 167
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:47 pm
Location: Baltimore
Contact:

Post by austin » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:16 am

konabuzz wrote:As to the recording....another poster mentioned hiss...and I know he was nostalgically pining for "back in the day" but I actually have heard quite a bit worse as far as hiss goes...especially with 8 track cassette. I think you've managed your noise floor quite well. Don't hear a lot of oversaturation of the tape (which can be a pleasing effect in itself) which means you were mindfull of your gain staging among other things. Pretty clean.

One thing I must mention, as he is another fav of mine......Kelley Stoltz.
Yeah, Kelley Stoltz is great! His 8-track is way nicer than mine. :(

As for hiss/saturation: I used the dbx NR on the 488 for nearly everything on the record, and when you hit it hard with the dbx on, it can create some weird artifacts (sounds like noise is pumping along with the signal). So I tended to keep levels pretty conservative to avoid that.

The amount of hiss when the NR is off seems worse on the 488 than on other cassette machines I've used, for whatever reason (maybe reduced track width? I don't know) -- on my old 4-track, I used to prefer the sound of NR off + hitting tape harder, but not on this machine.

mertmo
buyin' gear
Posts: 595
Joined: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:15 pm
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico

Post by mertmo » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:50 am

Hey Austin. I just bought a 238 cassette 8 track and I found this thread while
searching around.

Just wanted to say, great music man! Nice job on the recording too. And the
whole package, with the great cover art just popping right into iTunes...
Nice job. Inspiring me to just have fun with my 8 track and do a record.

"1982" is cool too --

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests