What are some of the most "poorly engineered" albu

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Post by Gregg Juke » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:09 pm

The only song I remember from them is "Cheeseburger."

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Post by Jitters » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:25 pm

There are quite a few kinks albums that, to my ears didn't get the treatment they deserved. Probably 'rushed' more that badly engineered, but the efeect is about the same.

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Post by 1grex » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:15 pm

AnalogousGumdropDecoder wrote:
1grex wrote:Primus: Pork Soda, Tales From The Punchbowl, Brown Album
KISS: Hotter Than Hell, ALIVE! II, Animalize, Crazy Nights, ALIVE! III
Creed: their first 3 albums (this is not just b/c Creed is not my bag; in fact there are many "modern rock" albums from this era that have that bad ProToolsy sound))
Smashing Pumkins: agree that Mellon Collie was a sonic letdown compared to Siamese Dream
that's all I can think of right now...
It's been a while since I've listened to The Brown Album, but to my recollection it has some pretty killer sounds on it.... drums in particular. Much better than what I've heard of their newest album.

All KISS albums sound bad, and there are many reasons for it.

Mellon Collie is sonically hit-and-miss. After that, the band's studio sound just gets weaker and weaker.

reg. Primus: to my ears it is a step TOO FAR in the right direction. Everything is just overdriven beyond tasty. Maybe it works better on vinyl? The CD just hurts.

reg KISS: if you have time, some specifics to why ALL Kiss albums sound bad, from an engineering standpoint. to me, Dressed to Kill, Revenge, Creatures of the Night, & Destroyer are sonic standouts for this group, not that you care :) all in good fun brother.

reg SP: agree

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Post by Jitters » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:50 pm

KISS ARMY FOR LIFE!

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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:34 am

i was ace frehley 2 halloweens in a row.

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Post by Gregg Juke » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:21 pm

Interesting! I was hanging with Ace, and he was dressed as Scott Craggs the last two years!

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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:41 pm

we're dead ringers.

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Post by Gregg Juke » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:04 pm

That's you at the top, right?

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Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:52 pm

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Post by joelpatterson » Sat Dec 24, 2011 5:07 am

Wait a minute-- you're saying those are two different people???
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Post by 1grex » Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:24 pm

This thread is pure concentrated evil. Like a double vortex black hole. Just sucked me right in & tortured me till I vomited something lol

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Post by Gregg Juke » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:12 pm

Could you post a picture?

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Post by Seej » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:15 pm

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themagicmanmdt wrote:To back mention, however, "Piper At The Gates Of Dawn" is a travesty to listen to in mono. The stereo is ALL the fun. That's the right kind of madness, methinks. The landscapes create a sonic wonderland - forests with strange birds squawking, etc... it adds atmosphere, creates something new.
Are you serious? There are entire parts left off the stereo version of Piper. I grew up listening to the stereo version and had not heard the mono version until the re-release a couple of years ago. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I thought the mono record was SO MUCH better. It seemed so much more "realized" to me. And this was a record that I had absolutely LOVED all those years, too.
One thing I can't quite figure out is the edit at the end of "Flaming" where one whole chord was cut of the mono mix, but is kept in the stereo mix. That has got to be one of the best edits made in 1967 IMHO, but why the hell was it done? Did Syd just up and say " I don't like that one chord there. Can we cut it out?"
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Post by Gregg Juke » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:31 pm

Not hip to that particular edit (and not super familiar with the album), but I have been told that during that time, the mono mix was the "important" one. Mono was the one that would get played on radio, most people still listened in mono, so that was the "serious" mix. So perhaps more care was spent on that, and the mono was more "after-thought?"

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Post by vvv » Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:35 pm

So ya know we are payin' attention, I think ya meant,

"...and the stereo was more "after-thought?"
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