vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

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Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

Post by shedshrine » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:25 pm

Happy New Year. I’m sure there are some silver linings in all of this.

time for a ramble.

Thanks jimjazzdad. Lucky for you I couldn't trim down the polka soundbites to under 10 seconds. They were just too good. :)

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I deleted the Holdworth review I just posted that was right here for a bit because it was crap. I’ll try again at some point. I love the guy. Followed his bliss, damn the torpedos.

Ugh. I have a hard time with reviews, writing them I mean. I appreciate good ones, but at a certain level, i either like something or I don’t. It's really a personal thing. And of course that really has absolutely no bearing on whether you should like it. I don’t want anything to do with anything that smacks of the responsibility of portending to be a taste maker, or the judge of someone’s art (or artistic commmerce ha!) beyond my own discernment.

Clapton wanted to call one of his albums "the greatest guitar player in the world..there's one in every crowd". You get to a certain level, and it's just a matter of taste, of style. Some styles are popular, some connect with you, some not so much. Who am I to judge their talent, their intent.
"I can't wait for my album to drop so I can find out what I wrote" said Dylan, or something like that.

Some reviewers are amazing. They can bring in Greek deity references and visceral analogies galore and you actually get ‘a’ image of the aural experience you may find.
And VVV does great succint one or two liner reviews that cut to the chase.

In my estimation, to write a good one, where you can be as empirically objective as much as is humanly possible, where the truth you are expressing is so self evident, you really can't hurt the artist's feelings because it's such an honest critique that you are arguably helping them see what needs to be seen, and at the same time you are truly helping your brothers and sisters find more good music from the source, the muse, the connection that we all seek. I guess the trick is to review awesome albums, ha!


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I’m sitting here listening to Chet Baker. My 17 year old daughter, who is a big K-Pop fan, also happens to be currently digging Billie “Lady Day” Holiday, and more recently Chet Baker.
Damn!

The Chetness I’m listiening to is from a Spotify playlist. I’m sure many of you have gotten to this place long ago, but I am listening more and more to this format, and while I know that it isn’t exactly the way to artistic reimbursement nirvana, it has proven such a beautiful way to get new music into my ears. And sure, stuff I find that I love I’ll seek out on vinyl, but for just general listening there’s no turning back.

The audio connoisseur in me thought it lame that Spotify calls their best sound quality “extreme fidelity’ yet it wasn’t even lossless, but rather streamed at 320kbps. Regardless, it sounds pretty darn good.

The playlist function..albums are awesome, but sometimes an artist just works better for me when I get to what for me is the wheat of the matter, And I just don’t have the time to listen through 10 million artists catalogs to savor and mull over to choose which songs I dig the most and would want to compile for repeated enjoyment.

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Vinyl is awesome, and when I started collecting in earnest in 2012 I was seriously thinking I would get every song that I’ve ever liked on vinyl, one hit wonders, classic rock icons, jazz greats, avante garde gems, every funky record known to man…

When I got up past the 2500 lp mark, I re-assessed my initial intent. Y’know, maybe I really don’t need to have every song I’ve ever taken a shine to on vinyl.

I was in the Last Record Store in Santa Rosa last weekend talking with Hoyt,
I told him jokingly that I was glad when I came in and didn’t find anything. and also noticing that wow, there are a hell of a lot more people into vinyl now.
He said you must be glad you got all the records you wanted before vinyl got more popular.

I have sold back a bunch to them for store credit, and just chip away at that reserve when I find something “special”.

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Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

Post by shedshrine » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:07 pm

Oh man, here's an amazing lot of great finds. Found over time.

There’s about 9 or 10 right there.

These have become go-to records for chill out.

Fantastic music, well recorded and committed to vinyl beautifully.


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I can’t tell you what they are.



I haven’t found decently clean and/or non-outrageous priced copies yet.

But I will.

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Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

Post by winky dinglehoffer » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:02 pm

shedshrine wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:25 pm





I’m sitting here listening to Chet Baker. My 17 year old daughter, who is a big K-Pop fan, also happens to be currently digging Billie “Lady Day” Holiday, and more recently Chet Baker.
Damn!
My 17 year old has been getting into the classics as well. Just today he was listening to the Beastie Boys' 1998 masterwork "Hello Nasty."

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Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

Post by shedshrine » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:58 pm

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Post by shedshrine » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:21 pm

Cut a hole (actually two) in the tops of these wall mount Ikea cabs and ran all the wiring through.
I'd had the Technics wired directly to a run of the mill black box Yamaha receiver's phono, but it sounded really tinny and harsh, even using the "direct sound" circuitry bypass on the Yamaha.
Patched in my Lounge Audio phono pre, and yeah, sounds great now.

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These JBL 4408 2-way's were my first studio monitors from around 1990. Were in storage the whole time I was in Japan. Titanium tweeters! Just dial back the top end dial to true zero and they sound sweet as pie. Replaced the disintegrated foam rings around the bass drivers and they are sounding awesome. And they fit perfectly in those Ikea cab spaces.

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Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

Post by markjazzbassist » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:38 am

how many records do you have shed? seems like your house is full of LP's everywhere!

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Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

Post by shedshrine » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:51 am

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Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

Post by markjazzbassist » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:58 am

wow that's a lot. i have a modest collection of 379 records (i have more cassettes, have 415 of those). i can't imagine what your collection worth estimates on Discogs are :shock: side note, what a wonderful database discogs is, i just love that place. wonderful archive, way to find new music/artists/musicians, and even buy stuff.

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Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

Post by shedshrine » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:37 am

markjazzbassist wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:58 am
i have a modest collection of 379 records (i have more cassettes, have 415 of those).
I'm quite sure it is some of the most bad-ass funkafied funky funk frequencies ever to be funked up and found affixed to a format, frankly.

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i can't imagine what your collection worth estimates on Discogs are :shock: side note, what a wonderful database discogs is, i just love that place. wonderful archive, way to find new music/artists/musicians, and even buy stuff.

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Yeah, Discogs was a game changer for sure.
Those values...I don' t know. Surely no one is going to pay that top dollar figure for these. I certainly didn't. Maybe if you sold each one individually online you could get in the mid range of those kind of numbers?
My daughter, if she doesn't keep them, will probably just sell them in bulk.

I think a record collector would come out to my place, thumb through them all, stroke his beard
a minute, and say

"Well.. I'll give you $2,500 for the lot, how's that?"

"But I pai.."

"FIne, $2,600."

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Re: vinyl collecting ( and surrounding planetary atmosphere )

Post by markjazzbassist » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:25 am

i would show her discogs, if i sold my collection i'd sell all the high dollar ones separately to get max profit, and then the 'regular' stuff i'd just sell as a collection. but you're right, you're not gonna get that much for it. still a fun little stat to look at.

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