I'm going back to cds as my primary
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I'm going back to cds as my primary
that's it, i'm going back to cds instead of downloads or streaming as my primary. Not that I won't ever download, but...
I've gone back and forth twice now and I think I can conclude my listening experience is all around better when I have a cd.
I primarily listen in my car on commutes and I just don't have the patience to scroll through my itunes library and when I do settle on something, I'm not satisfied for long, for whatever reason.
When I have a few cds in the car, I'll thrown one in and its in the rotation for a few rounds over a day or two. I feel much more invested/interested in it and I get to know it better.
I don't know why, and I know I'm in the minority. But I think I've settled.
When I'm at home I generally only listen to vinyl because I don't have a cd player and I hate listening to youtube on the tv and completely uninterested in hooking up my iphone to my in home stereo.
I've gone back and forth twice now and I think I can conclude my listening experience is all around better when I have a cd.
I primarily listen in my car on commutes and I just don't have the patience to scroll through my itunes library and when I do settle on something, I'm not satisfied for long, for whatever reason.
When I have a few cds in the car, I'll thrown one in and its in the rotation for a few rounds over a day or two. I feel much more invested/interested in it and I get to know it better.
I don't know why, and I know I'm in the minority. But I think I've settled.
When I'm at home I generally only listen to vinyl because I don't have a cd player and I hate listening to youtube on the tv and completely uninterested in hooking up my iphone to my in home stereo.
CD's, each and every day, in almost every way.
I carry a Discman, use it on the mile to and from work - walking ...
On the train, when the cell-phone bitches is screamin' at their moronic lovers ...
In the orifice, less - there I stream and listen to d/l'd live stuffs. And yooze guys.
In my old truck, sometimes, w/ the Discman, because I'm all about bein' a outlaw - Mudhoney rules at 75 mph.
At night, laying in bed, with the Optimus 5" on the bed-posts ...
Right now, ribs on the BBQ and box winein', thru the Klipsch w/ Yamaha subs cranked, listenin' to Lanegan's Bubblegum, and the EP ...
I carry a Discman, use it on the mile to and from work - walking ...
On the train, when the cell-phone bitches is screamin' at their moronic lovers ...
In the orifice, less - there I stream and listen to d/l'd live stuffs. And yooze guys.
In my old truck, sometimes, w/ the Discman, because I'm all about bein' a outlaw - Mudhoney rules at 75 mph.
At night, laying in bed, with the Optimus 5" on the bed-posts ...
Right now, ribs on the BBQ and box winein', thru the Klipsch w/ Yamaha subs cranked, listenin' to Lanegan's Bubblegum, and the EP ...
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Digital has its conveniences, but for me, reliability is key. Files suck re: reliability, and quality control even, IMHO.
A few examples? I DJ'd a wedding last night. I do not use a laptop, but I do use files for "convenience" (mp3s on USB stick that can be played from my pro CD players, and an iPod Classic for back-up). Digi-files almost ruined the gig and I was sweating bullets several times as there were several glitches at critical event points, and I had to re-download several tracks on the fly with spotty wifi. After downloading tracks and making playlists all week to avoid that very scenario. Re: quality control, a few years ago, I downloaded about 200 or more songs from iTunes to jump start/super-charge my mp3 library, and I wound-up having to fix at least 50 percent of them in Sound Forge one way or another. This from the world's leader in digital music retail.
I buy an LP, it works. I've had a bad CD or two out of literally thousands purchased since the format began. Never a problem. You never put a CD in, and it only plays the first three seconds of the song, over and over. You never put a CD in and play one track, to find that it is actually re-cuing another track, and the only thing you can do is waste valuable time reloading.
Luddite-schmuddite; CD's and vinyl are a known quantity with very little tech issues or major quality control problems; in my experience, digital music "bites the big one," as they used to say on SNL.
GJ
A few examples? I DJ'd a wedding last night. I do not use a laptop, but I do use files for "convenience" (mp3s on USB stick that can be played from my pro CD players, and an iPod Classic for back-up). Digi-files almost ruined the gig and I was sweating bullets several times as there were several glitches at critical event points, and I had to re-download several tracks on the fly with spotty wifi. After downloading tracks and making playlists all week to avoid that very scenario. Re: quality control, a few years ago, I downloaded about 200 or more songs from iTunes to jump start/super-charge my mp3 library, and I wound-up having to fix at least 50 percent of them in Sound Forge one way or another. This from the world's leader in digital music retail.
I buy an LP, it works. I've had a bad CD or two out of literally thousands purchased since the format began. Never a problem. You never put a CD in, and it only plays the first three seconds of the song, over and over. You never put a CD in and play one track, to find that it is actually re-cuing another track, and the only thing you can do is waste valuable time reloading.
Luddite-schmuddite; CD's and vinyl are a known quantity with very little tech issues or major quality control problems; in my experience, digital music "bites the big one," as they used to say on SNL.
GJ
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I've had some crap downloads from iTunes, in my limited purchasing experience through them (only a dozen or so albums purchased through them maybe, because why pay $10 for an album download when I can buy the CD?). I had one album that I repeatedly kept getting glitched out downloads, and upon contacting Apple Support I was met with "sorry, we're just gonna refund your money rather than attempt to find a solution for you to get what you actually wanted." Which is disappointing because I did want the album, and I wanted to support the relatively small artist, and I just have to assume that if other people are having this problem due to Apple they are simply losing out on whatever meager revenue rather than gaining any fans. I did send an email direct to the artist to let them know what was going on also. Somehow over the course of these glitchy downloads I was giving a refund and some song credits?which had sat in my account for maybe 2-3 years at least?and I just the other day decided to turn those credits into songs.
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A buddy of mine and I here get ripped on all the time for having and using Walkman's and mass amounts of cassettes.
I'm in the boat with the rest of you: CD's in the truck; vinyl in the house (with the cassette thang going on too).
I NEVER stream. EVER! I do download from time to time, however, it's usually from a download card. I hardly ever get anything off iTunes unless I just can't find it anywhere else.
I'm in the boat with the rest of you: CD's in the truck; vinyl in the house (with the cassette thang going on too).
I NEVER stream. EVER! I do download from time to time, however, it's usually from a download card. I hardly ever get anything off iTunes unless I just can't find it anywhere else.
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I think I can honestly say that my ears are not good enough to hear the difference between MP3s and CDs. But I've never A/B'ed them.Snarl 12/8 wrote:I think you'll get support here for listening to whatever you want as long as you don't say you're doing it because it sounds better. If it's a "workflow" or "playflow" issue it's valid, but if you think CD's sound better than mp3's or flac or vinyl, you're nuts.
Vinyl, I can obviously hear a difference. But I'm not talking about sonic quality, it is strictly about the overall listening experience.
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Ah, the endless debate followed by endless "scientific taste tests." I believe some people can hear the difference. For me, I have to admit, not-so-much, and after all, although this is "Tape Op," we know that many/most/a significant sum of us are producing using digital in the first place... So I get what you're saying CK, but for me, that playability/glitch-probability issue is a huge factor for me.
LP = best sound and most fun for me
CD= easy as 1,2,3
Mp3= almost ruin the gig and make me play for free
So I think you can see, I'll stick with CD's...
(la di dee-- Help me, I CAN'T STOP!!!)
GJ
LP = best sound and most fun for me
CD= easy as 1,2,3
Mp3= almost ruin the gig and make me play for free
So I think you can see, I'll stick with CD's...
(la di dee-- Help me, I CAN'T STOP!!!)
GJ
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I do vinyl, cd's and files. I'm just glad we have so many choices. I mean cd's are cool, but how cool is it that you can have your entire music collection with you for a long road trip or a vacation. I love being able to bring an iPod with everything on it in the car and a little bluetooth speaker for listening on vacation. I also bring a really small mono bluetooth speaker to rehearsals in case we decide to do a cover and need to reference it. It really is awesome to have these options.
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I only listen to digital audio files in low resolution, when I have to reference something quickly.
Or practice drums to a bunch of different styles.
Otherwise it's CDs for the car, and vinyl, if I have the album I want to listen to for pleasure.
Or practice drums to a bunch of different styles.
Otherwise it's CDs for the car, and vinyl, if I have the album I want to listen to for pleasure.
Howling at the neighbors. Hoping they have more mic cables.
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