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taping shows at a venue?

Post by cassettefetish » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:58 pm

say that Kristin Hersh's husband is my pal and is going to let me get access to the mixer to record her show in Chicago this weekend... Do sound reinforcement mixers use XLR out or 1/4"?? What sort of dongle do I need most likely?

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Post by Girl Toes » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:21 pm

Well, it depends on what kind of mixer, some might even have RCA tape outs.

Still, board recordings aren't usually all their cracked up to be. He's mixing for the room, there isn't going to be a recording mix, is there???

I would take this opportunity to set up some nice stereo mics in a place where they won't get bumped, and have a nice spot to monitor the recording.

I run sound at a club, and if I like a band, I just tape the room, never the mix.

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Post by cassettefetish » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:45 pm

Well, I know board recordings are generally terrible. I have some other soundboard recordings of Kristin and they sound fine. It's just her and her guitar.

I think I will just bring an arsenal of adapters/jacks with me. :D Just to be sure.

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Post by kcrusher » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:05 pm

HEY! doesn't clear channel have some kind of patent on recordings made live at venues?

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Post by cassettefetish » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:33 pm

I patented your mom's clear channel last night.

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Post by bad_dude_69 » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:35 pm

i'd venture to say they'd either be RCA or 1/4". while it's true that he'll be mixing for the room, the sound guy may be able to give you a rough stereo mix through the output matrix. be sure to talk with the sound guy well before the show so he doesn't end up having to troubleshoot your shit while doing soundcheck or something.
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Post by thunderboy » Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:46 pm

My desk has everything but RCA outs. I usually do a discreet headphone mix through the matrix, though if situation involves more sound reproduction than sound reinforcement (singer/sonwriter, hip-hop, etc...) I'll just use the main mix.

If you have a nice pair of mics, ambient miking may be better if you want to catch the vibe of the room.

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Post by bobbydj » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:39 am

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Post by bluetarp » Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:24 am

How many tracks you got?

I tape shows with four tracks if I can get a stereo submix off the board, mix with stereo mics.

Three tracks for a mono off the board, stereo mics.

Played a gig last fall where the band hired a guy with a HD24 who took a direct off every board channel. Not sure how many - seven piece band with three vocalists, 6 or 7 mics on the drums... He didn't add live mics. In a perfect world, he could've mixed a pretty decent sound, maybe, but what he ultimately presented to us sounded like shit. I know we didn't sound that bad in the room.
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Re: taping shows at a venue?

Post by cassettefetish » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:11 am

This is fan taping...

I wish I had more info and I knew the club's policy... i guess that is why they invented the phone,right?

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Re: taping shows at a venue?

Post by Girl Toes » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:04 pm

Was Kristen Hersh ever in Belly??? If not, who was the bassist?? Oh, no it was Gail Greenwood, never mind.

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Post by cassettefetish » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:15 pm

she was the lead singer of Throwing Muses. Her step-sister, and former muse, Tanya Donelly was Belly's founder.

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Post by xonlocust » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:17 pm

looks like she's playing schubas - which is a great venue, esp for that style. i played there a week or so ago.

they have a pretty nice console (A&H i think? midas maybe??) and i'd guess 1/4" if i had to. in that room especially i'd try and get the natural sound mic'd. it's really a nice sounding room on its own, and the reinforcement is very much reinforcement and not blow your balls off rock club PA.

that said they also have that whole emusic live thing going on and record simultaneously to sell immediately after the show (if the performer signs up for it). the live thing from our show was suprisingly good, much much better than a similar recording from the metro.

edit: yamaha m3000 console

http://schubas.com/tech.aspx

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Documen ... m3000a.pdf

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Re: taping shows at a venue?

Post by cassettefetish » Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:12 pm

OMG thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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