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In the back room, they were trying to get him off.

Post by Piotr » Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:54 am

Gonzales: Did He Help Bush Keep His DUI Quiet?
Bush and Gonzales
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Did Gonzales (right) get Bush off a DUI jury duty?



By Michael Isikoff
Newsweek

Jan. 31 issue - Senate Democrats put off a vote on White House counsel Alberto Gonzales's nomination to be attorney general, complaining he had provided evasive answers to questions about torture and the mistreatment of prisoners. But Gonzales's most surprising answer may have come on a different subject: his role in helping President Bush escape jury duty in a drunken-driving case involving a dancer at an Austin strip club in 1996. The judge and other lawyers in the case last week disputed a written account of the matter provided by Gonzales to the Senate Judiciary Committee. "It's a complete misrepresentation," said David Wahlberg, lawyer for the dancer, about Gonzales's account.

Bush's summons to serve as a juror in the drunken-driving case was, in retrospect, a fateful moment in his political career: by getting excused from jury duty he was able to avoid questions that would have required him to disclose his own 1976 arrest and conviction for driving under the influence of alcohol (DUI) in Kennebunkport, Maine?an incident that didn't become public until the closing days of the 2000 campaign. (Bush, who had publicly declared his willingness to serve, had left blank on his jury questionnaire whether he had ever been "accused" in a criminal case.) Asked by Sen. Patrick Leahy to describe "in detail" the only court appearance he ever made on behalf of Bush, Gonzales?who was then chief counsel to the Texas governor?wrote that he had accompanied Bush the day he went to court "prepared to serve on a jury." While there, Gonzales wrote, he "observed" the defense lawyer make a motion to strike Bush from the jury panel "to which the prosecutor did not object." Asked by the judge whether he had "any views on this," Gonzales recalled, he said he did not.

While Gonzales's account tracks with the official court transcript, it leaves out a key part of what happened that day, according to Travis County Judge David Crain. In separate interviews, Crain?along with Wahlberg and prosecutor John Lastovica?told NEWSWEEK that, before the case began, Gonzales asked to have an off-the-record conference in the judge's chambers. Gonzales then asked Crain to "consider" striking Bush from the jury, making the novel "conflict of interest" argument that the Texas governor might one day be asked to pardon the defendant (who worked at an Austin nightclub called Sugar's), the judge said. "He [Gonzales] raised the issue," Crain said. Crain said he found Gonzales's argument surprising, since it was "extremely unlikely" that a drunken-driving conviction would ever lead to a pardon petition to Bush. But "out of deference" to the governor, Crain said, the other lawyers went along. Wahlberg said he agreed to make the motion striking Bush because he didn't want the hard-line governor on his jury anyway. But there was little doubt among the participants as to what was going on. "In public, they were making a big show of how he was prepared to serve," said Crain. "In the back room, they were trying to get him off."

Gonzales last week refused to waver. "Judge Gonzales has no recollection of requesting a meeting in chambers," a senior White House official said, adding that while Gonzales did recall that Bush's potential conflict was "discussed," he never "requested" that Bush be excused. "His answer to the Senate's question is accurate," the official said.

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Post by bluetarp » Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:33 am

I've got two thoughts on this:

Gonzales has a lot of trouble remembering some things. Perhaps he needs a little "motivation" to jog his memory. Electrodes spring immediately to mind.

Why?

The confirmation of Gonzales is a referendum on torture. Approve the man, approve his policies.

"Certain applications of torture techniques are acceptable in certain circumstances."

This is so full of holes it's ludicrous. We're actually discussing it. Dancing around hypothetical details justifying torture.

I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I thought we were better than that. My bad.

The DUI thing, well, it aint much. That sort of thing happens all the time, not just the offense, but the chambers deals. Not a huge threat to the nation. But to be fair, if it had been Clinton........
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Post by JASIII » Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:48 am

Wouldn't it be fuckin great if this lead to a whole lewinskygate-type witchhunt of bush?
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Post by nipsy » Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:24 pm

this is the same cat who said the geneava convention was basically trivial....




sweet......

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Post by joelpatterson » Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:08 pm

In the back room, he was everybody's darlin'.
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Post by JASIII » Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:58 pm

doot de do de doot doot do do doot....
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Post by inverseroom » Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:08 pm

JASIII wrote:Wouldn't it be fuckin great if this lead to a whole lewinskygate-type witchhunt of bush?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Hoo hoo hoo. heh. snort. *wipes eyes*

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Post by TrumpsHair » Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:43 pm

JASIII wrote:Wouldn't it be fuckin great if this lead to a whole lewinskygate-type witchhunt of bush?
Could never happen cause the rethugs control the Senate and the House, and they would never go after Bush, cause that would damage them, as Republicans.

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