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Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by kcrusher » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:57 pm

Just wondering what everyones thoughts are on Bush's proposed 'Social Security Reform'.
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Post by Girl Toes » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:59 pm

I aggree with what ever Massive Mastering thinks.

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Post by ubertar » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:01 pm

SSRigsbyGargesA.L. wrote:I aggree with what ever Massive Mastering thinks.
In that case, we're all "a bunch of fags". :D

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Post by Mr. Dipity » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:01 pm

SSRigsbyGargesA.L. wrote:I aggree with what ever Massive Mastering thinks.
Me too, but I think that Mr. PC and Fiery Jackoff should get to actually word the legislation.

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Post by Girl Toes » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:03 pm

sserendipity wrote:
SSRigsbyGargesA.L. wrote:I aggree with what ever Massive Mastering thinks.
Me too, but I think that Mr. PC and Fiery Jackoff should get to actually word the legislation.
And while we're at it, let's have Larry send it out to everybody for free.

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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by Mr. Dipity » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:22 pm

SSRigsbyGargesA.L. wrote:
And while we're at it, let's have Larry send it out to everybody for free.
Free? FREE??? What are you? Some kind of LIBERAL?

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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by eeldip » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:28 pm

sserendipity wrote:
SSRigsbyGargesA.L. wrote:I aggree with what ever Massive Mastering thinks.
Me too, but I think that Mr. PC and Fiery Jackoff should get to actually word the legislation.
i think we should just give them the money directly and let them "invest" it.

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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by Mr. Dipity » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:32 pm

eeldip wrote:
sserendipity wrote:
SSRigsbyGargesA.L. wrote:I aggree with what ever Massive Mastering thinks.
Me too, but I think that Mr. PC and Fiery Jackoff should get to actually word the legislation.
i think we should just give them the money directly and let them "invest" it.
They could buy the hit factory, and fill some nice large New York condos with drugs and hookers. For freedom and family values, of course.

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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by Mr PC » Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:46 pm

I love the way this thread is going! Send me all of the money!!

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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by MASSIVE Mastering » Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:36 pm

(1) I hope no one is suggesting that I would ever call anyone (or any group) a "bunch of fags." Never said it - Never will.

(2) Anyway, I was all for it when President Clinton brought it up. He repeadtedly called it "a serious fiscal crisis" and I was right with him on it. I remember all the BI-PARTISAN support when Clinton suggested private accounts during a SOTU speech in the mid 90's.

Then, he did nothing.

Anyway, I'm still for it. Either that, or let me opt-out. I don't need Uncle Sam telling me where to invest. I always thought it was a ridiculous idea, and I got special credit in HS consumer class when I said "well, won't (Social Security) go broke around 2010 or so with all the baby-boomers retiring?"

Of course, I was off by several years, but any first-year economics student could've figured this out in the 60's.

Oh wait - They DID figure this out in the 60's... And repeatedly, no one did anything about it. So once again, I'm all for reform (or just trashing the system).

Hopefully, he'll (Dubya) have the brass to actually do something about it this time.
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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by psychicoctopus » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:55 pm

If W has a boner for it, it's probably a bad idea.
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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by TrumpsHair » Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:24 pm

psychicoctopus wrote:If W has a boner for it, it's probably a bad idea.
See there? And this guy lives in Austin. Take that monkeyman...

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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by MASSIVE Mastering » Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:45 pm

Harry Reed and Nancy Pelosi BOTH support it also.

Whoops - I mean they supported it when Clinton was in office...

FDR (you know, the guy who signed SS into law) saw SS as a small "safety net" and hoped for a broader coverage based on private accounts.
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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by Zoltar » Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:36 pm

It seems once the private sector gets involved, things start costing more money, and nobody is accountable. as much as taxes are higher than they should be, there is no limit to what these bastards will take from you.

we had a premere here in Ontario that messed up our healthcare system, education, and most of the roads. oh, and polution is on par with Texas now too. he deregulated all sorts of crap, and now it costs a lot of money for junky crap. Mike Harris is an asshole.

Then people started to threaten his family and his life, and he got out of politics. you see, you need to have accountability. Even though it isn't being said just yet, that is what this is about. At the present rate, the United States won't be a single country in 40 years.

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Re: Thoughts on 'Social Security Reform'

Post by Mr PC » Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:52 pm

Zoltar wrote:It seems once the private sector gets involved, things start costing more money, and nobody is accountable. as much as taxes are higher than they should be, there is no limit to what these bastards will take from you.

we had a premere here in Ontario that messed up our healthcare system, education, and most of the roads. oh, and polution is on par with Texas now too. he deregulated all sorts of crap, and now it costs a lot of money for junky crap. Mike Harris is an asshole.

Then people started to threaten his family and his life, and he got out of politics. you see, you need to have accountability. Even though it isn't being said just yet, that is what this is about. At the present rate, the United States won't be a single country in 40 years.

...the south will rise again?

Holy crap. That first sentence is exactly the opposite of how the world works, at least in the USA. Accountability arises from stake holders being close to decision makers. How does government bureaucratic control equal accountability?

If this guy you are talking about was a corrupt moron, than I imagine that he could deregulate in a crooked way.

I think people in the private sector are accountable to market forces, and that is a real kind of accountability.

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