machismo!
anyone remember 'rico suave' by gerardo?
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Wild Bill wrote:That about nails it down.drumsound wrote:Talent is an ability to do something well. Usually it?s an enhancement of something that person can naturally just do.
Charisma on the other hand is more of a magnetism that just draws people in. When people have charisma you want to watch them perform, talk to them, meet them learn about them etc.
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If you have talent, you need no lessons.
Andre Segovia had talent (never took a lesson in his life)
He went so far as to say he felt lessons inhibited ones ability to express ones self on an instrument., yet he had an extreme degree of virtuosity.
Kurt Kobain had charisma. I often look past his lack of virtuousity on guitar and see great personal expression.
Empty barrels sound the loudest.stillafool wrote:There's a story in Del Rio Texas about the time the local arts committe invited Andres Segovia to play guitar in front of the locals. I think the kids expected Roy Rogers or Gene Autry to play cowboy songs, because after Segovia started playing, some kid rolled a coke bottle down the aisle. Then he stopped playing. To add insult to injury the local hick hotel wouldn't let him stay because they thought he was a Mexican. They used to bring some other guy -- a third rate Russian violinist who played behind his head. The kids loved him.Wild Bill wrote:That about nails it down.drumsound wrote:Talent is an ability to do something well. Usually it?s an enhancement of something that person can naturally just do.
Charisma on the other hand is more of a magnetism that just draws people in. When people have charisma you want to watch them perform, talk to them, meet them learn about them etc.
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If you have talent, you need no lessons.
Andre Segovia had talent (never took a lesson in his life)
He went so far as to say he felt lessons inhibited ones ability to express ones self on an instrument., yet he had an extreme degree of virtuosity.
Kurt Kobain had charisma. I often look past his lack of virtuousity on guitar and see great personal expression.
Neither that definition, nor LCD pop culture, have anything to do with charisma. Indeed, the sort of musicians who would fall under your descriptor rarely have any charisma at all, as no personality reaches out through their performances.stillafool wrote:I think I'd use the term "charisma" as either a joke or somewhat contemptuosly. Charisma usually refers to "what people like," which more often than not means the least common denominator, or something egregious and loud to attract the attention of the masses. It rarely refers to anything of quality, especially in today's world.
No it's not. You think Cobain wasn't talented??Antero wrote:.... The Segovia/Cobain example is a good one.
Only to dogs and the color blind...Wild Bill wrote:Joeysimms:
The world is not made only of black and white, rather many subtle shades of grey.
It's an analogy, Mike.MichaelAlan wrote:Only to dogs and the color blind...Wild Bill wrote:Joeysimms:
The world is not made only of black and white, rather many subtle shades of grey.
Mike
Don't get me wrong, I love the guy.joeysimms wrote:No it's not. You think Cobain wasn't talented??Antero wrote:.... The Segovia/Cobain example is a good one.
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