glyn/ethan johns setup pics

[cjac9]

Hey I just found these and they really helped me out in seeing how this setup is actually done. I'd seen a diagram before and it didn't make as much sense. So for you visual folks here you go... scroll through to see the drum pics.

http://www.threecrowsmusic.com/ray_studio.htm

[JoshT]

That pic always confused me, actually. I figured the ldc was being used as a tom mic, and that the coles is a mono oh.

[cjac9]

Good point. I think that is right though. Wonder what he is using on the kick...

[helmuth]

Matthew engineered that album so perhaps he'll chip in.

[helmuth]

Hope he doesn't mind me quoting him.

drums were done the same way on the last record.

3 mics

Coles over the snare,about three feet above the centre of it.

coles by the floor tom,looking at the centre of the snare,same distance from the centre of the snare as the one over the top.

AKG D112 on the bass drum....about a foor back from it,dead centre....

top and side mics into UA 610 pre's then direct to tape.bass drum into a Neve mic pre,then direct to tape......

top and bass drum mic in the centre tom mic panned hard left............the end.

oh yeah, Ethan got this technique from his dad.he is also a fucking amazing drummer,with a great sounding kit,in a great sounding room.....that's really what the bulk of the sound is........

[chuckfurok]

so what's up with the md421 on the floor tom then?

[C_R_J]

im guessin the floor tom mic was put there strictly to confuse us

its probably not even on... ha!

who knows...

[Recycled_Brains]

so what's up with the md421 on the floor tom then?

maybe there were songs where it needed added emphasis?

i just tried this setup for the first time at my apt. over the weekend, and really liked it. had the panning wrong though, so i'm glad i read this.

-ryan

[JustinHedrick]

ok, so i have read the explanation/ seen the pictures of the kit.

I just have 1 question:

the mic above the floor tom, is it pointing at the floor tom, or at the snare? because in the photo it shows it pointing down like a normal overhead. . .

[tateeskew]

it's quite obvious that the mic above the tom is there to mic the beards.

[watergunfight]

it's quite obvious that the mic above the tom is there to mic the beards.

wouldnt the beards be out of phase if youre following the 3 to 1 rule?

[oldguitars]

it's quite obvious that the mic above the tom is there to mic the beards.

wouldnt the beards be out of phase if youre following the 3 to 1 rule?

Actually, Blue just came out with a specialty mic just for these situations. It is called the "Bluebeard" and it apparently will pick up every follicle and lice.

[I'm Painting Again]

When I was up at that sudio Matthew was telling me the real trick in that drum sound is the way Ethan had tuned the kit..like his dad he spent quite some time getting it to sound the way he wanted before the mics even went up..

[oldguitars]

When I was up at that sudio Matthew was telling me the real trick in that drum sound is the way Ethan had tuned the kit..like his dad he spent quite some time getting it to sound the way he wanted before the mics even went up..

yep. I have done a couple of sessions with Ethan, and he is all about "capture". Good drummer, appropriate good sounding drums are the first step.

[JustinHedrick]

now, would that mic technique work on a vandyke beard as well? would you have to hi-pass it to work on a handlebar moustache??

god, this could go on forever.