API 312 and Fatheads/Ribbons

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API 312 and Fatheads/Ribbons

Post by antonlamont45 » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:21 pm

Will the 312 provide enough gain for a Fathead on a quiet singer, do you think? Or how about other ribbons? Does it match well gain wise or is it not enough? Very curious...

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Post by djimbe » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:25 am

Old 312? Like early '70's vintage? I think I recall reading on a thread here that the input transformers changed at some point from an 8:1 to a 10:1. You should be able to research that by the number stamped on top of your traffos.

Mine are the smaller ratio and only work well with ribbons if the source is loud. My ribbons are almost all old ones too, so that may be part of it. The newer ones like the Fathead likely have a higher output than my old Shures and Beyers. New 312 (like from a 3124) or a 512 might get you there. I haven't used the new API stuff...
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Post by ShinyBox » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:49 am

if you run ribbon -> 312 ->compressor -> recorder you should be fine.

Other than that, it will depend on how quiet is quiet =)

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Post by antonlamont45 » Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:59 am

actually i was thinking of the API A2D which contains 312 pres. the source would be vocals at talking volume. thanks for the advice.

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Post by Nick Sevilla » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:07 pm

antonlamont45 wrote:Will the 312 provide enough gain for a Fathead on a quiet singer, do you think? Or how about other ribbons? Does it match well gain wise or is it not enough? Very curious...

actually i was thinking of the API A2D which contains 312 pres. the source would be vocals at talking volume. thanks for the advice.
Try using not a ribbon mic, but a large diafragm condenser (LDC). This is if you insist on using the API mic pre.

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Re: API 312 and Fatheads/Ribbons

Post by yoink » Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:42 pm

antonlamont45 wrote:Will the 312 provide enough gain for a Fathead on a quiet singer, do you think? Or how about other ribbons? Does it match well gain wise or is it not enough? Very curious...
API 3124s or A2Ds? Plenty of gain for most ribbons/dynamics. I can't imagine it's any different for the 512c.

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