Pro Tools Rant
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Pro Tools Rant
I like Pro Tools. really. it usually does what I need.
However, tonight I spent about 3 hours trying to bounce 8 tracks for a 4 minute song. this should have only taken 30 minutes at most. I see this quite often:
Maybe I will put this in my signature. I have seen this error occur since running PTLE 6.1 (at least 4 years ago). Digi always claims that its bad fades or something. All my tracks tonight were consolidated and I deleted all the unused tracks and segments-there were no fades and no automation. after jacking around with it for hours I finally found the magic start and end points that allowed me to get a good bounce. The freakin error message shows the line of source code (and presumably the name of the guy who coded it) where the error occurred--that should be a pretty good starting point for Digi you would think...
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However, tonight I spent about 3 hours trying to bounce 8 tracks for a 4 minute song. this should have only taken 30 minutes at most. I see this quite often:
Maybe I will put this in my signature. I have seen this error occur since running PTLE 6.1 (at least 4 years ago). Digi always claims that its bad fades or something. All my tracks tonight were consolidated and I deleted all the unused tracks and segments-there were no fades and no automation. after jacking around with it for hours I finally found the magic start and end points that allowed me to get a good bounce. The freakin error message shows the line of source code (and presumably the name of the guy who coded it) where the error occurred--that should be a pretty good starting point for Digi you would think...
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been awhile since I searched duc.digidesign.com but found a link to this article:
http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?nav ... emid=20566
I will have to try reducing my DAE buffer to 4 (it is set to 8 )
Mike
http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?nav ... emid=20566
I will have to try reducing my DAE buffer to 4 (it is set to 8 )
Mike
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Whenever I get ANY problem with PT, I start by doing nothing. Then I restart the program. then I restart the computer... after that, toss the digi databases on EVERY mounted drive. then toss the prefs. That will usually handle like 59% of the problems that you are likely to experience.
Beyond that, it is case specific.
Beyond that, it is case specific.
+1joel hamilton wrote:Whenever I get ANY problem with PT, I start by doing nothing. Then I restart the program. then I restart the computer... after that, toss the digi databases on EVERY mounted drive. then toss the prefs. That will usually handle like 59% of the problems that you are likely to experience.
Beyond that, it is case specific.
I'll ammend it by saying this fixes 85% of my problems. It's also critical that you have your buffer settings set correctly (as you found out). Especially if you're working on a slightly underpowered machine. I've also found that when working on my laptop, turning off the wireless connection and virus scan stuff has a serious effect on what I'm able to do.
All the same, my heart always sinks when I see the dreaded error box popping up. I feel your pain!
Instead of bouncing you could try bussing to a new audio track and recording the bus mix. This has the advantage of not using the bounce handler, and allowing you to stop, make a quick change, and continue recording from where you left off.
Bouncing and recording to a new audio track yield identical waveforms, there is no audio difference between the two methods.
Bouncing and recording to a new audio track yield identical waveforms, there is no audio difference between the two methods.
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Re: Pro Tools Rant
Try bussing the mix to a stereo buss, and feed thta to a new audio track.digitaldrummer wrote:I like Pro Tools. really. it usually does what I need.
However, tonight I spent about 3 hours trying to bounce 8 tracks for a 4 minute song. this should have only taken 30 minutes at most. I see this quite often:
Maybe I will put this in my signature. I have seen this error occur since running PTLE 6.1 (at least 4 years ago). Digi always claims that its bad fades or something. All my tracks tonight were consolidated and I deleted all the unused tracks and segments-there were no fades and no automation. after jacking around with it for hours I finally found the magic start and end points that allowed me to get a good bounce. The freakin error message shows the line of source code (and presumably the name of the guy who coded it) where the error occurred--that should be a pretty good starting point for Digi you would think...
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Record onto new track. PRESTO. You'll NEVER EVER EVER EVER have the "bounce did not complete" popup again.
Plus, if it DOES stop for whatever reason, you can punch in a little before PT screwed up, and not lose a lot of time.
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so I did the house cleaning and changed my buffer size and have not seen that error pop up again yet, however only time will tell.
I DID however have an instance (and I also see this all too frequently) where I was bouncing to MP3 (and I have it set to do conversion after the bounce) and it bounces then at the end just stops and... nothing. no mp3. no error message. Usually if I change the start or end point by a few ms, it works the next time.
So yeah, I could bus it or hold one leg in the air and count backward while chanting but I just hate workarounds...
I DID however have an instance (and I also see this all too frequently) where I was bouncing to MP3 (and I have it set to do conversion after the bounce) and it bounces then at the end just stops and... nothing. no mp3. no error message. Usually if I change the start or end point by a few ms, it works the next time.
So yeah, I could bus it or hold one leg in the air and count backward while chanting but I just hate workarounds...
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Actually, recording onto a new track is not a workaround. It is BETTER than bouncing. I have used this method for years. I do not use the bounce feature. Ever.digitaldrummer wrote:so I did the house cleaning and changed my buffer size and have not seen that error pop up again yet, however only time will tell.
I DID however have an instance (and I also see this all too frequently) where I was bouncing to MP3 (and I have it set to do conversion after the bounce) and it bounces then at the end just stops and... nothing. no mp3. no error message. Usually if I change the start or end point by a few ms, it works the next time.
So yeah, I could bus it or hold one leg in the air and count backward while chanting but I just hate workarounds...
Or you can keep crossing your fingers every time you press the bounce button... and hope it does not crash.
It's your time. Your call. Your frustration levels.
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How do you usually turn dual mono 24-bit wave files (left and right) into stereo interleaved 44.1/16 or MP3 or whatever?noeqplease wrote:Actually, recording onto a new track is not a workaround. It is BETTER than bouncing. I have used this method for years. I do not use the bounce feature. Ever.
That's why I bounce.
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Select the region in the edit window and press shift +apple (or ctrl on PC) + K to export as files. This gives you the same options as when you bounce.[/quote]How do you usually turn dual mono 24-bit wave files (left and right) into stereo interleaved 44.1/16 or MP3 or whatever?
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