What are you guys using to make drum loops/beats ITB?
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What are you guys using to make drum loops/beats ITB?
I have Reason but wondering what other softsynth drum machines you guys like...?
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Re: What are you guys using to make drum loops/beats ITB?
Reason works really well, as does simply editing loops in protools these days with elastic audio... you can do Ableton LIVE -esque- things with elastic audio just dragging in any loop and stretching it to the measure.curtiswyant wrote:I have Reason but wondering what other softsynth drum machines you guys like...?
Protools with reason works REALLY well, especially if you record reason out through something in the analog domain and back into protools and edit the "feel" with elastic audio.
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here is a vote for fruityloops - fl studio
The grandfather of them all
Takes a while to learn the intricate stuff - but FL is a generation ahead of the others in terms of what you can do with loops.
I dont use the others because FL does everything (no bias here )
but can the others vary the swing of your own "groove pattern" where the amount is calculated from a formula with the song position and overall volume as inputs.
Just an example of the kind of flexibility and "humanizing" variation you can get with FL.
Highly recommended.
NOTE: I said a generation ahead - most of these tools add the popular stuff every revision so reason may have this soon
The grandfather of them all
Takes a while to learn the intricate stuff - but FL is a generation ahead of the others in terms of what you can do with loops.
I dont use the others because FL does everything (no bias here )
but can the others vary the swing of your own "groove pattern" where the amount is calculated from a formula with the song position and overall volume as inputs.
Just an example of the kind of flexibility and "humanizing" variation you can get with FL.
Highly recommended.
NOTE: I said a generation ahead - most of these tools add the popular stuff every revision so reason may have this soon
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I have been trying lately to use the Ultrabeat instrument in Logic, as well as rewiring from Live into Logic. I use the "Slice to New MIDI track" function in Live a lot with different controllers, it is great fun. It does a pretty good job of cutting a beat loop up and laying it out on a pad-type layout, I use a Tenori-on as controller a lot of times.
Why not?
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I've been jamming with GURU. It has swing templates that really make it stand out from the other grid editors. Give the demo a try
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Sonar 8.3 with a variety of drum machines, both physical ones like Alesis HR16b and Synsonics drums and VSTs like the tre awesome Waldorf Attack. I could write whole songs with just the Attack VST.
I used to use Acid a lot before Sonar got looping. Though sonar's looping is hard to configure so that its not awful sounding. The default setting is not as nice at extreme stretching as Acid and PT.
I also used to use Reason a lot but just kind of lost interest in it. Seems to sound too commercial and bland to me no matter what I do.
I used to really like frooty loops (the old one before Fl studio) if for no other reason than the neat kick drum effect that would put it outside of the freakin speakers! But that one also kind of had a techno vibe to all of the sounds that I had a hard time getting around.
I used to use Acid a lot before Sonar got looping. Though sonar's looping is hard to configure so that its not awful sounding. The default setting is not as nice at extreme stretching as Acid and PT.
I also used to use Reason a lot but just kind of lost interest in it. Seems to sound too commercial and bland to me no matter what I do.
I used to really like frooty loops (the old one before Fl studio) if for no other reason than the neat kick drum effect that would put it outside of the freakin speakers! But that one also kind of had a techno vibe to all of the sounds that I had a hard time getting around.
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I almost always use Stylus RMX.
I have a huge library of loops, drum hits and textures, and they end up being used on almost every record I do.
RMX (Rex) files are also easy to edit and stretch. They automatically conform to project tempo and you can edit the hits within a loop in seconds.
Really cool.
I have a huge library of loops, drum hits and textures, and they end up being used on almost every record I do.
RMX (Rex) files are also easy to edit and stretch. They automatically conform to project tempo and you can edit the hits within a loop in seconds.
Really cool.
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If we're talking specifically about drum machines (as opposed to apps like Battery, BFD, or DrumCore--all of which are great IMO), then i have to add my vote to:
1. Live 7 (Impulse, and especially the new DrumRacks component)
2. Reason 4--get to know the ReGroove device...serious creative joy
In addition to these I'll plug one that hasn't been mentioned. A company called NuEdge Development has a drum machine app called muTonic. I can't remember how I heard about it, but I downloaded the demo and had so much fun I ended up buying it. It's decidedly techno-leaning, but we are talking about drum machines here after all. The good points: way, way easy to use; very intuitive; easy to warp and mangle. I would give it a 10/10 for workflow and creativity. More of a learning dash than a learning curve.
1. Live 7 (Impulse, and especially the new DrumRacks component)
2. Reason 4--get to know the ReGroove device...serious creative joy
In addition to these I'll plug one that hasn't been mentioned. A company called NuEdge Development has a drum machine app called muTonic. I can't remember how I heard about it, but I downloaded the demo and had so much fun I ended up buying it. It's decidedly techno-leaning, but we are talking about drum machines here after all. The good points: way, way easy to use; very intuitive; easy to warp and mangle. I would give it a 10/10 for workflow and creativity. More of a learning dash than a learning curve.
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