recommend me some non smooth jazz Metheny
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recommend me some non smooth jazz Metheny
I've had Bright Size Life and the '78 Pat Metheny Group album, and want to get some more, but I don't want the smooth jazz stuff. Did he do any hard jazz stuff?
I've done a little research on Allmusic, and "Question and Answer" sounds great in the samples I heard.
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I've done a little research on Allmusic, and "Question and Answer" sounds great in the samples I heard.
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I love non-smooth Metheny.
The trio albums:
Bright Size Life (Jaco, Bob Moses)
Rejoicing (Charlie Haden, Billy Higgins)
Question & Answer (Dave Holland, Roy Haynes) The best of the lot!
Experimental Ones:
80/81 (Dewey Redman!!)
Song X (ORNETTE!!!)
Zero Tolerance for Silence - Must Hear This, doesn't sound anything like a Pat Metheny record, recommended by Thurston Moore on the CD I bought when it came out.
Stay away from anything with Gary Burton or the Falcon and Snowman Soundtrack, great movie, awful synth guitar.
The trio albums:
Bright Size Life (Jaco, Bob Moses)
Rejoicing (Charlie Haden, Billy Higgins)
Question & Answer (Dave Holland, Roy Haynes) The best of the lot!
Experimental Ones:
80/81 (Dewey Redman!!)
Song X (ORNETTE!!!)
Zero Tolerance for Silence - Must Hear This, doesn't sound anything like a Pat Metheny record, recommended by Thurston Moore on the CD I bought when it came out.
Stay away from anything with Gary Burton or the Falcon and Snowman Soundtrack, great movie, awful synth guitar.
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Re: recommend me some non smooth jazz Metheny
There is an album that he did with Chick Corea, Gary Burton, Dave Holland and Roy Haynes. I believe it is called "Like Friends". It is definitely not smooth jazz. He does some excellent playing on it.shedshrine wrote:I've had Bright Size Life and the '78 Pat Metheny Group album, and want to get some more, but I don't want the smooth jazz stuff. Did he do any hard jazz stuff?
I've done a little research on Allmusic, and "Question and Answer" sounds great in the samples I heard.
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Good call on these. Definitely not smooth and the recent Song X reissue has some great stuff on it.austingreen wrote:Experimental Ones:
80/81 (Dewey Redman!!)
Song X (ORNETTE!!!)
Zero Tolerance for Silence - Must Hear This, doesn't sound anything like a Pat Metheny record, recommended by Thurston Moore on the CD I bought when it came out.
The duo record he did with Scofield is pretty good, too.
I don't generally think of Metheny as "smooth jazz" (that's a term I usually reserve for minimal chord-change, backbeat-oriented stuff like Najee or Grover Washington), but I think I get what you mean. Metheny's a hell of a unique player with a grip on many styles. He's also a pretty nice guy.
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you can hear a joyful squall on The Sign of 4, a double-duo with Derek Bailey, Gregg Bendian, and Paul Wertico. Also, it doesn't have Pat Metheny, but the Gregg Bendian / Nels Cline version of Interstellar Space is pretty awesome.
I want to hear that Dewey Redman collaboration - that guy blew me away once when I saw him play, but I never have quite found the spark in his records.
I want to hear that Dewey Redman collaboration - that guy blew me away once when I saw him play, but I never have quite found the spark in his records.
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Really? I think he's terrific. Have you heard any of those Old And New Dreams records? Playing is a favorite of mine.Brian Brock wrote:I want to hear that Dewey Redman collaboration - that guy blew me away once when I saw him play, but I never have quite found the spark in his records.
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No, I think he's great. It's just that in my experience his records don't compare to that one night where I couldn't believe what was happening before me. It was Cameron Brown and the Hear and Now, with Sheila Jordan on voice, David Balou on trumpet, and I can't remember the drummer. Dewey Redman would sort of hang out backstage and then come out and do these just killer things that were like Bach and Coltrane at the same time. Then the next night it was Bill Frissell and Joey Baron.
On record I've heard something with Keith Jarret, his album with Elvin Jones and Cecil Taylor, which are both great but not what I wanted to hear from Redman, and In London, which is a great album - one of my favorite jazz albums. I'll check Playing out. Of course I'm being poor-souled, expecting a record to compare with one of my favorite shows...
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On record I've heard something with Keith Jarret, his album with Elvin Jones and Cecil Taylor, which are both great but not what I wanted to hear from Redman, and In London, which is a great album - one of my favorite jazz albums. I'll check Playing out. Of course I'm being poor-souled, expecting a record to compare with one of my favorite shows...
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Old And New Dreams was a SICK group. Dewey, Don Cherry, Charlie Haden, and Ed Blackwell. Just frightening. Playing is a live record they did with mostly Ornette Coleman tunes. Kind of hard to go wrong with a record of mostly Ornette Coleman tunes. Worked great for John Zorn, too. (I'm thinking of Spy Vs. Spy.)
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