Solfeggio Frequencies

roygbiv · Post by **roygbiv** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:52 pm

dude, I remember hippies well! I was born in '61, so hippies formed like my earliest memories, man.

And growing up in Nebraska meant we didn't even get the 60's until the 70's. Hence shoulder length hair, Jimi Hendrix T-shirts and an overall Jeff Spicoli gestalt formed my being from Nixon through Carter.

Then when Reagan got elected I turned into a punk rocker. Probably why I like saying Fucking Hippies.

(I mean no disrespect to the real fucking hippies. Just having some fun.)

nobody, really · Post by **nobody, really** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:14 am

I believe in science. and science is theories based on observations of nature, the universe, etc. people make little "psuedo science" theories all the time. this one, though, at least the part about sound/vibration having a physiological effect on humans and other living things seems to be pretty well documented. everything in nature is cyclical, has a frequency. we cook our food everyday with high frequencies that excite molecules to the point of producing heat. so, in order to find 'healing' sounds for the human body, you probably just have to go to nature. in the same way that even fancy houseplants are just common weeds somewhere on the planet, we humans have(had) a place that we evolved with, and as such are perfectly suited to living in. what is the frequency of a waterfall pouring over limestone? or the frequency of a warm breeze mingling with the sound of the ocean? or the frequency of one hand clapping? : )

btw, you can call yourself an activist, beatnik, socialist, anarchist, musician, hipster, back-to-the-lander, new-ager, organic farmer, or a circus performer. but leave the west coast and you're just a fucking hippie.

leigh · Post by **leigh** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:46 am

nobody, really wrote:I believe in science. and science is theories based on observations of nature, the universe, etc. people make little "psuedo science" theories all the time. this one, though, at least the part about sound/vibration having a physiological effect on humans and other living things seems to be pretty well documented. everything in nature is cyclical, has a frequency. we cook our food everyday with high frequencies that excite molecules to the point of producing heat. so, in order to find 'healing' sounds for the human body, you probably just have to go to nature. in the same way that even fancy houseplants are just common weeds somewhere on the planet, we humans have(had) a place that we evolved with, and as such are perfectly suited to living in. what is the frequency of a waterfall pouring over limestone? or the frequency of a warm breeze mingling with the sound of the ocean? or the frequency of one hand clapping?

Sorry, but you've just illustrated a very pseudo-science line of thinking. To wit: you're taking a general principle from science (cyclical phenomena, i.e. things that oscillate at various frequencies), and using it as a broad brush to paint a speculative picture. So, you get to use the language of science, which lends an air of credibility, but the gist of what you're saying is speculation: "you probably just have to go to nature". It may sound right and feel intuitively correct, but real science requires observation as well as speculation (as you acknowledge right at the beginning of your response).

There may be "healing sounds" for the human body, but different objects have different resonant frequencies, right? So, tall people probably require lower-frequency healing sounds than short people. Anyone who tells you there's one magic frequency is lying to you. You should buy my kit that allows you to test for your own resonant frequency, right in the comfort of your own home/yurt. Then, avoid all bad frequencies that don't resonate with you, by using my specially designed earmuffs:

nobody, really · Post by **nobody, really** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:42 pm

golly, no need to apologize. I don't think you're resonating with my frequency, bro.
seriously though, i was pontificating on an internet forum for fun. the tomb is not a science journal, silly.

plurgid · Post by **plurgid** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:24 pm

All this talk of "fucking hippies", "magic frequencies" with southpark references ....

no mention of the brown note

BAM!

you're welcome.
damn ... just crapped my pants.

drumsound · Post by **drumsound** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:34 pm

My former chriopractor used to use an ultrasound machine on me and it really helped certain really right, painful things. She is a friend and even lent me the machine when she closed her practice. I need to dig that thing out.

frans_13 · Post by **frans_13** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:32 am

In western civilisation, this topic is bound to met with ... mixed reactions. To cut it short: if you want hard facts you have to talk to people from india and assorted eastern civilisations. They have a few thousand years of empirical data on this, a living tradition and are as scientific as you want. Doesn't keep folks who never spent 5 minutes of their time on that topic from judging.

eeldip · Post by **eeldip** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:59 am

ah indeed. the INSCRUTABLE ORIENTALS always know best.

jgimbel · Post by **jgimbel** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:04 am

eeldip wrote:ah indeed. the INSCRUTABLE ORIENTALS always know best.

I just lost it. Amazing.

frans_13 wrote:In western civilisation, this topic is bound to met with ... mixed reactions. To cut it short: if you want hard facts you have to talk to people from india and assorted eastern civilisations. They have a few thousand years of empirical data on this, a living tradition and are as scientific as you want. Doesn't keep folks who never spent 5 minutes of their time on that topic from judging.

That is true. I've been to China a couple times, and definitely talked with people about Chinese medicine and gone into a number of "pharmacies" and stuff like that, and over there they definitely do look at things as fact that we over here think is BS (and I myself generally agree). But they don't even look at it as a religious thing or miracle cures or anything, they really do use all the herbs and things like that just like we use what we get from CVS. To them it has little to nothing to do with mysticism, and the mysticism of things being an "ancient Chinese secret" is that it's things that people discovered long ago and have been proven true over many many years. So "traditional" to them isn't that it's connecting with some ancient spirits, but that it's been proven as fact and time-tested. They have a whole concept about warm food and cool food (which has nothing at all to do with the actual temperature of the food) that's pretty interesting. I can't say I believe in it, but it's interesting. One thing that I found really interesting, and this is true, is that most Chinese people believe that traditional Chinese medicine only works in China, and that Chinese people who come to live in America find it doesn't work. My guess is that's because they're influenced by what we do here, but it's interesting nonetheless.

I'm going to talk to one of my close friends in China and see if she knows anything about these sound frequencies. She's a pretty modern girl, but she was busy last night folding paper money to burn for her father who passed away a few months ago which will go to him in the afterlife..so I'd say she's not too far from Chinese tradition.

Jay Reynolds · Post by **Jay Reynolds** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:36 am

Oh yeah? Any of you empiricist Doubty McDoubtersons care to explain this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=givMvbbXWZA

Dakota · Post by **Dakota** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:34 am

This territory is so frustrating. 528 hz is the resonant frequency of DNA? I'm open to that idea... but I'd have to see some real science behind that, not mushy new age well-wishing.

And to invoke that kind of thing and not actually talk about just intonation (as opposed to equal temperament), which really does make a difference if one is going for healing sound. Missing the mark.

The Theta brainwave entrainment thing is solid and useful though. Things that pulse in the 4-8hz range, when well handled, can help induce trance states. If you are going for that. It's solid science and can be used for healing sound.

nobody, really · Post by **nobody, really** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:36 am

Yeah, that's nothing. You should see what Broccoli can do.

Anyways I've seen way worse at Slayer concerts.

Jay Reynolds · Post by **Jay Reynolds** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:47 am

nobody, really wrote:Yeah, that's nothing. You should see what Broccoli can do.

Anyways I've seen way worse at Slayer concerts.

None of those Slayer pussies can handle a feathered EWI like Kale. Don't even pretend that they can.

nobody, really · Post by **nobody, really** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:41 am

I think Neurosis has/should have a midi shaman...

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