The placebo effect, when your brain rules your ears
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The placebo effect, when your brain rules your ears
So I'm tweaking the EQ this way and that, doing A/B comparisons carefully and really dial it in so nice then...
DOH! I realize that...
the audio track for the video I'm "working on" is disabled, and I'm actually listening to another track all along, and quite actively imagining all the good my tweaking is doing.
This ain't the first time either.
I have just started trying to pay attention to what I'm hearing, working up some mixing chops... I think part of the reason I'm so easily fooled is when I A/B there is a time delay between A and B, it takes a well functioning sonic memory to compare subtle changes to a clip.
I would be comforted if someone else could relate to this... does it get better? Any testimonials?
The placebo effect works for health, I'm thinking it sells a ton of unnecessarily spendy gear.
DOH! I realize that...
the audio track for the video I'm "working on" is disabled, and I'm actually listening to another track all along, and quite actively imagining all the good my tweaking is doing.
This ain't the first time either.
I have just started trying to pay attention to what I'm hearing, working up some mixing chops... I think part of the reason I'm so easily fooled is when I A/B there is a time delay between A and B, it takes a well functioning sonic memory to compare subtle changes to a clip.
I would be comforted if someone else could relate to this... does it get better? Any testimonials?
The placebo effect works for health, I'm thinking it sells a ton of unnecessarily spendy gear.
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I've heard of this before but honestly can't sympathize. If you turn a knob and you don't hear a difference something's wrong.
Did it just the other day in fact, I was trying to EQ a track and couldn't hear my tweaks/changes, then realized the plugin I was using was actually in bypass mode. But not for a moment did I fool myself into believing I heard changes.
The only thing I can recommend is slow down and be a little more methodical. I have yet to [personally] believe in the placebo effect when listening to audio.
Did it just the other day in fact, I was trying to EQ a track and couldn't hear my tweaks/changes, then realized the plugin I was using was actually in bypass mode. But not for a moment did I fool myself into believing I heard changes.
The only thing I can recommend is slow down and be a little more methodical. I have yet to [personally] believe in the placebo effect when listening to audio.
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It happens, it's a common enough phenomenon, particularly when listening to an element of a dense mix.
I find that listening in a well treated room reduces this effect, simply because it's easier to hear details in the mix.
When that happens to me, as it does once in a while, I take it as a sign that I need to go get some fresh air and rest my ears for a bit.
I DEFINITELY agree that the placebo effect (or other psychoacoustic phenomena) sells a ton of, as you put it, unnecessarily spendy gear.
I find that listening in a well treated room reduces this effect, simply because it's easier to hear details in the mix.
When that happens to me, as it does once in a while, I take it as a sign that I need to go get some fresh air and rest my ears for a bit.
I DEFINITELY agree that the placebo effect (or other psychoacoustic phenomena) sells a ton of, as you put it, unnecessarily spendy gear.
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It happens to everyone at one time or another whether they admit it or not.bluesman wrote:I have never admitted to doing this : )
What also is interesting is when a musician asks me to do x,y,z and before I can do it they're like "that's better". Sometimes I tell them I didn't do it yet sometimes I keep my mouth shut depending on what they asked.
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Back in the day of large format Los Angeles recording studios I did 'service' for several rooms.
A couple I installed an extra pot on the master module. It wasn't connected to anything. It was called "The producer's pot".
All the AE's were wise to it and used it. Anytime a track or mix needed a "something extra" the producers pot was always used, with success.
A couple I installed an extra pot on the master module. It wasn't connected to anything. It was called "The producer's pot".
All the AE's were wise to it and used it. Anytime a track or mix needed a "something extra" the producers pot was always used, with success.
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And not to mention the importance of level matching options A and B.
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But you're not just turning a knob. You are turning a specific knob that you know will alter the audio in some very specific way. It's only natural for our brain/ears to have preconceptions about what the aural effect will be. So even if nothing changes, it's a very real phenomenon for us to feel like something did.KennyLusk wrote:If you turn a knob and you don't hear a difference something's wrong.
I guess that's part of the irony of being an experienced engineer & knowing what to expect from an knob tweak: it's too easy to hear what you expect to happen and not what really happened.
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