Nashville/High Strung Electric Guitar
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Nashville/High Strung Electric Guitar
Wondering if anyone has used this trick to any degree of success...?
(ie. Put the high strings out of a 12 string set on a 6 string electric, re-string with standards and tightly double track)
My nearest place that might rent an electric 12 string is a five hour round trip.
(ie. Put the high strings out of a 12 string set on a 6 string electric, re-string with standards and tightly double track)
My nearest place that might rent an electric 12 string is a five hour round trip.
Mike
I keep my thinline tele clone tuned nashville. I often use it for it's own thing. The overlap in the voicings (in many chord shapes, the third and fourth string play the same notes as 1 and 2) is pretty fun, and it leaves a lot of room in the lower register for other things.
I have a couple of times used it to double a part played on a standard-tuned guitar and then mixed them into the same amp sim to fake a 12-string. The success of that particular maneuver depends partly on the pickups being somewhat matched so they kind of sound the same to begin with. Far more important, though, is precision in the actual performance. You really need to lock in almost perfectly in both timing and dynamics for it to not sound like two different guitars. Even then, I'm not sure it really sounds like a 12-string, but it can be an interesting effect. (This is a perhaps not great example. It's actually triple tracked with the low notes seperate from the doubled high notes, and in the solo they all kind of take off in different directions)
I also have a Squier mini-strat (20" scale, IIRC) that I string with standard 10s and tune up a fourth to A which is another way to get a little extra chime into an arrangement and keep it up out of the way of other things.
I have a couple of times used it to double a part played on a standard-tuned guitar and then mixed them into the same amp sim to fake a 12-string. The success of that particular maneuver depends partly on the pickups being somewhat matched so they kind of sound the same to begin with. Far more important, though, is precision in the actual performance. You really need to lock in almost perfectly in both timing and dynamics for it to not sound like two different guitars. Even then, I'm not sure it really sounds like a 12-string, but it can be an interesting effect. (This is a perhaps not great example. It's actually triple tracked with the low notes seperate from the doubled high notes, and in the solo they all kind of take off in different directions)
I also have a Squier mini-strat (20" scale, IIRC) that I string with standard 10s and tune up a fourth to A which is another way to get a little extra chime into an arrangement and keep it up out of the way of other things.
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I have a cheap-o parlour guitar with a P-90 in the hole that I use for nashville tuning. It gets used on 90% of the records that come out of my studio. As stated above, it's not really like a 12 string but it's amazing for adding second rhythm guitar parts. It's really great if you want to make a chorus feel brighter and different without it feeling like theres a second guitar there.
It's also great if you just want to sit around playing Free Falling all day.
It's also great if you just want to sit around playing Free Falling all day.
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I make two string pickups that slide under the strings (no need to rout or install) that can do that: http://ubertar.com/hexaphonic/one_and_t ... ckups.html
I could make a four string version, if that's what you're after.
I make two string pickups that slide under the strings (no need to rout or install) that can do that: http://ubertar.com/hexaphonic/one_and_t ... ckups.html
I could make a four string version, if that's what you're after.
Tempting. I've never actually tried it myself, I do have one of those uber cheap clip on soundhole magnetic pickups, that is flat, and has a lead on it, it's currently the bridge on a porch rail guitar I made. I took the bit of PVC pipe out and 'lectrified that sucker.
Apologies to the OP didn't mean to hijack
Apologies to the OP didn't mean to hijack
The previous statement is from a guy who records his own, and other projects for fun. No money is made.
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For a reasonably priced, well-made 12 string, look for a Kapa. They were made in the USA (Maryland) in the 60s, but don't command the same prices
that other US guitars from that time do, but they're very good. I have a 12-string Kapa Minstrel (teardrop shape) and it's easy to play and sounds
great, and it's older than me!
that other US guitars from that time do, but they're very good. I have a 12-string Kapa Minstrel (teardrop shape) and it's easy to play and sounds
great, and it's older than me!
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I also have an electric in the studio strung for Nashville tuning - it's an old Electra Workingman that sounds great set up that way. I use it less than I might, but when I do it's very cool.
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I actually think your (the OP) original idea sounds like a pretty cool solution, even if it's not the intended use of that tuning. It might not sound *exactly* like a 12 string, but if that was important enough to you you'd drive the 5 hours or just get/own your own 12 string. The end result will be something interesting and unique without a doubt!
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After some ebay slumming, I came across some DIY 12 string kits, came in at about $130 (Canadian) for a 12 sting tele style.
It landed yesterday, a few misaligned pre-drilled holes,
and some minor fitment stuff, but, plugged it in and it doesn't sound half bad. Still need to do a setup and dial stuff in on it, but so long as it holds tune for a take, I'm happy.
It landed yesterday, a few misaligned pre-drilled holes,
and some minor fitment stuff, but, plugged it in and it doesn't sound half bad. Still need to do a setup and dial stuff in on it, but so long as it holds tune for a take, I'm happy.
Mike
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Looks almost like the same as the Cozart kit... only difference is the pickguard.
The part I'm intending to put down is just in the choruses in one song, which gives me time to punch in and tune, and tune as needed. Family time has dictated that I won't be messing with it anymore until tomorrow... but, closing in on having it setup.
The part I'm intending to put down is just in the choruses in one song, which gives me time to punch in and tune, and tune as needed. Family time has dictated that I won't be messing with it anymore until tomorrow... but, closing in on having it setup.
Mike
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