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Re: Secret Chords

Post by MoreSpaceEcho » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:40 pm

knowing theory makes it easier to talk shorthand.

having been in bands where i was the only one who knew theory, there were plenty of times i was quietly chuckling to myself as my bandmates would be having some elaborate argument/discussion about some rudimentary thing...

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Re: Secret Chords

Post by ubertar » Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:38 pm

losthighway wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:24 am
friend who put out the anti-intellectual premise that my studies in college were going to ruin my music.
Reminds me of a couple punk rock guitarists I once knew, who avoided learning theory b/c they were afraid it would destroy their creativity. I said, "why don't you rip the frets out of the guitars then? There's theory already built in to the instrument".
Everything they played had pentatonic scales and power chords, so they knew some basics, but with that mind-set, they would have been better off without that.

If you're going to be anti-theory, you might as well go all-in. Lydia Lunch's guitar playing in Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, Beirut Slump, etc. is the best example I can think of for that approach, and making actual music with it. Throbbing Gristle is another. Theory always sneaks in, of course, intuitively if not intellectually. No one lives in a vacuum.
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Re: Secret Chords

Post by Magnetic Services » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:15 pm

Some of my favorite chords are simply the result of laziness. Take this one, for example:

X
0
0
2
2
2

I think it's some kind of D minor 7-type thing? Easy to finger and sounds way more interesting than a normal D or D minor.

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Re: Secret Chords

Post by A.David.MacKinnon » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:11 pm

My handy dandy chord finder tells me that an A6/11. If it was a Dmin7 it would be

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Re: Secret Chords

Post by losthighway » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:45 pm

Magnetic Services wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:15 pm
Some of my favorite chords are simply the result of laziness. Take this one, for example:

X
0
0
2
2
2

I think it's some kind of D minor 7-type thing? Easy to finger and sounds way more interesting than a normal D or D minor.
Actually ..... cleans off glasses.

That's a Dmaj7. It's got A, D, A, C# and F#. Since a D maj triad is D, F#, A, and the vii is C#.

I love major 7 chords and use them in most of my songs, but I'm not sure if I've ever used that voicing. Think I'll write a song.

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Re: Secret Chords

Post by Magnetic Services » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:01 pm

A.David.MacKinnon wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:11 pm
My handy dandy chord finder tells me that an A6/11. If it was a Dmin7 it would be

X
0
0
2
1
1
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Re: Secret Chords

Post by Snarl 12/8 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:04 pm

I have secret cords.

If you're ever grabbing patchy lookin cables in my "studio", [unlikely], don't use the ones with sharpy marks, like, x's or abbreviations on the ends, without talking to me.
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Re: Secret Chords

Post by vvv » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:26 am

I tie a knot in the bad ones.

Or are yers reverse-wired?

Back on topic: I really like the "Can't Find My Way Back Home" fingerpickin' walkdown C-chord.
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Re: Secret Chords

Post by Snarl 12/8 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:42 pm

vvv wrote:
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Or are yers reverse-wired?
One's phase flipped, one's ground lifted, etc.
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Re: Secret Chords

Post by vvv » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:12 am

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Re: Secret Chords

Post by CraigS63 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:12 am

I like this one to simulate the Hard Day's Night opening chord on one guitar (and no bass, and no piano)
low to high
3 3 0 0 1 1

I think all the right notes are there (especially double, if I'm on the 12 string).

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Re: Secret Chords

Post by losthighway » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:42 pm

CraigS63 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:12 am
I like this one to simulate the Hard Day's Night opening chord on one guitar (and no bass, and no piano)
low to high
3 3 0 0 1 1

I think all the right notes are there (especially double, if I'm on the 12 string).
That one's a little trickier for my theory brain. G-C-D-G-C-F

I kind of want to call it G7add4, but someone might have another way of looking at it cause there's no B to firmly give the major 3rd and stake it as a clear G chord. The only other idea would be to call it C5/Dmin which is a pretty weird idea.

Yes, the important thing is if it sounds cool (which it clearly does) but it's fun to find the geography of some of these weird ones.

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Re: Secret Chords

Post by vvv » Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:54 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always feel ya often gotta kinda look at any given chord in the context of its use, in order to most accurately name it.

I mean, in Eb, ya might have a Ab, but in C#, ya might have a G#, see.
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Re: Secret Chords

Post by losthighway » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:34 pm

vvv wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 9:54 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always feel ya often gotta kinda look at any given chord in the context of its use, in order to most accurately name it.

I mean, in Eb, ya might have a Ab, but in C#, ya might have a G#, see.
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Re: Secret Chords

Post by frans_13 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:00 am

High note drones low in the mix for the chorus. Jingle jangle. Could be anything.

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