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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by vvv » Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:00 am

cgarges wrote:
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... MXL V67s, weirdly enough.
Hope this helps.
I mean, I know, right? I have one of the Mogami ones and it's body is kinda mechanically loose and the screen a little dented and every time - every time - I put it up it sounds great and I wonder why I forgot.

I mean, it's MXL, but I also love the Genesis mics (tube and FET); my first condenser was a MXL 2006 (I still have a pair - one can use batteries).

OK, back to yer reg'lar scheduled programming.
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by DrummerMan » Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:41 pm

So, I often like to record tambourine with my back facing the mic, maybe about 3 or 4 feet from the mic. That tends to give me a good natural sound while nicely dampening the transient especially when the part being played has a left hand accent, as tambourine parts often do... Really, i dont think I've ever been in a situation where I'm mixing tambourine and want it to sound like it's close up. YMMV.

I just recorded a bunch yesterday and I was using the imitation c12 I had set up as a vocal mic. It's going through a UA LA-610 which is pretty dark. The combination of the crisp mic with the dark pre has been really wonderful, really giving me my favorite tones out of both pieces of gear that I've ever gotten.

My clap method usually involves flam slapping my bare belly, a couple feet from the mic, making a cup out of my hands so it's a little fuller sounding. 2 passes of that is pretty good, and way less transient-y than actual claps. If I do add in layers of real clapping I do it quieter than I think I should.
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by A.David.MacKinnon » Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:53 pm

DrummerMan wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:41 pm
My clap method usually involves flam slapping my bare belly, a couple feet from the mic, making a cup out of my hands so it's a little fuller sounding. 2 passes of that is pretty good, and way less transient-y than actual claps. If I do add in layers of real clapping I do it quieter than I think I should.
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by vvv » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:04 pm

I rec'd that spring drum yesterday, recorded it with a Shure KSM27-Eureka (the "proximity" vocal) chain.

Pretty cool and unique sound.
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by DrummerMan » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:06 pm

A.David.MacKinnon wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:53 pm
DrummerMan wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:41 pm
My clap method usually involves flam slapping my bare belly, a couple feet from the mic, making a cup out of my hands so it's a little fuller sounding. 2 passes of that is pretty good, and way less transient-y than actual claps. If I do add in layers of real clapping I do it quieter than I think I should.
Sweet Jesus. I almost spit beer on the laptop.
Glad I could help...
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by losthighway » Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:15 pm

DrummerMan wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:06 pm
A.David.MacKinnon wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:53 pm
DrummerMan wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:41 pm
My clap method usually involves flam slapping my bare belly, a couple feet from the mic, making a cup out of my hands so it's a little fuller sounding. 2 passes of that is pretty good, and way less transient-y than actual claps. If I do add in layers of real clapping I do it quieter than I think I should.
Sweet Jesus. I almost spit beer on the laptop.
Glad I could help...
But is it hilarious and true, or just hilarious?

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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by DrummerMan » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:57 am

losthighway wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:15 pm
DrummerMan wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:06 pm
A.David.MacKinnon wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:53 pm


Sweet Jesus. I almost spit beer on the laptop.
Glad I could help...
But is it hilarious and true, or just hilarious?
Oh, its 100% true!
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by cgarges » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:50 pm

DrummerMan wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:57 am
Oh, its 100% true!
I've done this with the sides of my calves, too. It's not as convincing as a group of people, but it works in a pinch.

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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by vvv » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:32 pm

A pinch and a slap ... :twisted:
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by DrummerMan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:59 am

cgarges wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:50 pm
DrummerMan wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:57 am
Oh, its 100% true!
I've done this with the sides of my calves, too. It's not as convincing as a group of people, but it works in a pinch.

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I'll have to try this. Repeatedly slapping your belly for take after take can start to sting...

I actually find this more convincing than actually clapping, or at least clapping alone. Maybe I haven't figured out the best clapping and micing technique combo, but it always feels like it's all transient and I have to end up running it through sculpting EQ, fast compression and maybe some overdrive for it to sit right in a mix
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by Nick Sevilla » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:47 am

DrummerMan wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:59 am
I'll have to try this. Repeatedly slapping your belly for take after take can start to sting...
There is a magical technique, called Sampling... ;)
Howling at the neighbors. Hoping they have more mic cables.

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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by vvv » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:33 pm

OK, so thinkin' about this, it might work for me.

See, I'm fat.

And so I slap my belly, and then I get, like, a back-slap.

Kinda like two claps for one, yeah?

I'll report back.
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by DrummerMan » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:39 am

Nick Sevilla wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:47 am
DrummerMan wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:59 am
I'll have to try this. Repeatedly slapping your belly for take after take can start to sting...
There is a magical technique, called Sampling... ;)
I already sampled everything on the menu, that's why my belly is so perfect for this technique...
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Re: Upping my percussion recording skills

Post by vernier » Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:30 am

HR-16 is still my fave drum machine.

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