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- SpencerMartin
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Alright, I need some sonic sleuthing. A little PI beyond the DI, ya dig? I'm definitely not going to go out and buy a new amp or guitar to achieve this sound - I'd just like to hear some different ideas for how to effectively mimic it.
On Nico's 1967 album, Chelsea Girl, the first two tracks start with the most amazing fingerpicking specific guitar tone. It's Jackson Browne playing - he also plays on a third track on the album, I'm just not sure which. This sound/style is pretty closely referenced on the opening of Wilco's "Either Way". In each example, the guitar starts the song by itself so you only have to listen to the first few seconds.
Nico - Fairest of the Seasons
Nico - These Days
Wilco - Either Way
On Nico's 1967 album, Chelsea Girl, the first two tracks start with the most amazing fingerpicking specific guitar tone. It's Jackson Browne playing - he also plays on a third track on the album, I'm just not sure which. This sound/style is pretty closely referenced on the opening of Wilco's "Either Way". In each example, the guitar starts the song by itself so you only have to listen to the first few seconds.
Nico - Fairest of the Seasons
Nico - These Days
Wilco - Either Way
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As to the Nico stuff, Chelsea girl is the album, and Gary Kellgren was the engineer.
Why don't you ask his son what they did, As Gary passed in 1977.
http://www.garykellgren.com/
To guess as to the acoustic guitar recording, I would venture this:
A mono recording of the guitar, using a tube microphone such as a U67, or similar,
and EQ used, depending on the studio... would be the console's EQ, and some compression either on the way in, or during the mix session. The tape most certainly would be the older formulation which is typically AMPEX or Scotch 201, and was much better than the later, black looking, sticky stuff 456.
Since this album was done in 1967 in New York City, and Gary was the engineer, it was most likely done at The Record Plant, Gary studio.
Cheers
Why don't you ask his son what they did, As Gary passed in 1977.
http://www.garykellgren.com/
To guess as to the acoustic guitar recording, I would venture this:
A mono recording of the guitar, using a tube microphone such as a U67, or similar,
and EQ used, depending on the studio... would be the console's EQ, and some compression either on the way in, or during the mix session. The tape most certainly would be the older formulation which is typically AMPEX or Scotch 201, and was much better than the later, black looking, sticky stuff 456.
Since this album was done in 1967 in New York City, and Gary was the engineer, it was most likely done at The Record Plant, Gary studio.
Cheers
Howling at the neighbors. Hoping they have more mic cables.
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If I was trying to cop that vibe on the cheap I would try using a magnetic pickup on an acoustic. something like a Seymour Duncan Woody. I think those are under forty bucks. There's something about the tone that reminds me of the boxiness you get from using a pickup with an acoustic. I actually dig that kind of tone and got the pickup for my Taylor mini GS for such things.
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I'd try some flat wounds if I was really going for it.
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