Never see the End Product These Days?

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I haven't noticed it getting any worse in recent years. Seems like it's always been like that. My best, most together clients always make sure I get a handful of discs. The space cadets are always gonna be the space cadets.

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smtimecharlie · audio school graduate Joined: 24 Jul 2009 Posts: 13

As a musician (I'm the self-financed type that was mentioned previously), there's a certain insecurity factor here too. If a studio just said that you'd like to have a copy as a "just in case" reference for other bands or projects, I'd send one in a second. Wrap it in a compliment, not a business-y sort of statement, I bet that would work well. Someone that just recorded an album, after all, wants most of all to know that people might listen to it and will appreciate it! Very Happy

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frans_13

I get finished CDs less than a few years ago...
but on the other end, I have copied unreleased CDs for fans that I was talking to who desperately wanted the songs... for example when the band has split up and wouldn't talk to each other anymore and the website is down.

Chris Graham Mastering · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: yep

My experience too Larry, I'd estimate I get a copy less than 1% of the time. : (
If it's a local project, that number is maybe 2% ; (
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Theo_Karon

Yeah. Usually I don't really care, but typically when I end up getting extremely invested in a project in an apparent way (i.e. putting in extra hours, continue going to as many of the band's shows as I can make after the record is done, etc) this gets noticed and I end up with a copy of the record. First real bummer in that regard came about a week ago, oddly enough- I was looking at the blog of a very talented artist and one-time good friend with whom I'd spent two months playing on, sometimes co-writing, recording and mixing a record this past winter, which I ended up putting a ton of free work into because I could see how awesome it could be and I wanted it to be that awesome, only to find that the damn thing has been in print for a month!

I briefly entertained the notion of calling the artist up and saying "Hey! What about me? Where's my record?" but quickly realized there was probably no delicate way to go about doing this, so instead just shelled out 30 bucks for the damn thing on the label's mail-order site... well, I'll be glad to have a copy, at least. White vinyl!
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If I take my curmudgeonly butt back to NYC, 1988 which is when I got to record and mix live for higher end stuff REGULARLY (12 bands a day), I noticed that more hollywood people were getting into the mix of record labels as artists and managers. A bad thing to be sure.
Hollywood stars sing VERY breathy, and it was a telltale sign that the act was more actor than musical artist, = short term career. Hollywood types don’t give you final copies. I don’t know why. They think of the music biz as a stepping stone for their acting career, if hey can just get that light to shine on them for a second, they can get a movie deal. It’s not every one of them, some go the other way, but, I saw the behind the scenes everyday high volume stuff, and it went like that most of the time.
I could see that becoming part of the zeitgeist of the industry after a while.
I’ve lost a TON of stuff, some of which is very noteworthy (I found out this year) due to this.
Sometimes I get them decades later.
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